Current Affairs The General Election

[peteblue]

Anyway, I’m off to bed.....

 

[dannyboy]

I'd say May performed better at the debates than Johnson. The one big thing Johnson has avoided is a dementia tax issue. That was a horrible policy, handled horribly.

I actually agree with you on Brexit, it has been a mess getting to the Brexit policy and in truth while they will win some retainers back, it's a problem for me still. Lots around Corbyn haven't always grasped Labour leavers will be a key voter demographic in this election.

That was the big risk of he election too. That Johnson could frame it as people v parliament with him on the side of the people. I don't think he has played this card as effective as he could have done. I also think his offer on the manifesto is bland, cautious and misses a big opportunity. I was very fearful of a big offer as he had suggested to the procinves. This (allied to Labour's Brexit stance) would have proven challenging.

As for the giveaway, maybe, but I think the manifesto is going down quite well. People are desperate for a change and wants lots of reform. They want 350m a day into the NHS!

If it's all going so badly for Labour, why would you say they are continually picking up in the polls?

The final line I disagree with. If Corbyn goes and more broadly if his/our section of the party lose the argument and we are replaced by an explicitly pro-Remain party leader, it will be a major problem for Labour, potential the end of it. The one thing they've had with Corbyn is someone who has tried to argue for the need to respect the referendum result, often to intense pressure in the party. Had he not, the election wold have been more difficult.

If we get another Blairite we will the game way as Change Uk (remember them?)

All these people demanding we put a ´moderate´ in charge of the party will be the exact same ones who turn the knife in the back come the ballot box if it happens. There´ll be something else wrong. The new leader will be too boring, lack charisma or won´t understand the needs of everyday people.

No matter what happens in this election we shouldn´t cede any ground. Returning to a 2015 style manifesto would probably result in the death of the party and anything resembling an opposition to the Tories in the country.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Raab had a difficult time hustings tonight on his home turf regarding Harry Dunn.

Dominic Raab heckled as Harry Dunn family left out of hustings

Dominic Raab is called a "coward" by friends and family of Harry Dunn who were kept outside a church.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Raab had a difficult time hustings tonight on his home turf regarding Harry Dunn.

Dominic Raab heckled as Harry Dunn family left out of hustings

Dominic Raab is called a "coward" by friends and family of Harry Dunn who were kept outside a church.

www.bbc.co.uk

Awful, cowardly politician. Typical of this conservative front bench. Johnson has surrounded himself with sycophants.

 

[dead_soft]

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this says everything

it absolutely does not. Or explain why you think differently. Again, no answer to a genuine point so madea non-sequitur

 

[dead_soft]

Lads, lads, I understand your need to defend the wonderful Oh Jeremy Corbyn, but even you must realise he is a liability to the Labour Party. The election is over, Boris has won, all that’s left is the arguments amongst the brothers and sisters as to who will replace him. Don’t make this harder than it is, get used to it and try and embrace a new Labour Party.....

Genuinely mad how little you understand about either the world or politics despite having supposedly spent a century being a top class bloke and a big business mad doing business stuff with people in every country.

 

[ToffeeTim]

I spent many years looking at data and trends in the progress of large projects. I have a nose for which way things are going. Daily polls mean little. It’s the trend that tells you everything. At the last election the Tories sort of muddled about in a horizontal line before the dip as Corbyn took off. Labour started low and continually grew. This time is different, whatever gain Labour makes, Boris is doing the same and maintaining a healthy difference. To me, and it’s only my opinion, it’s over, Boris has won and with a healthy majority. I may well be wrong and if I am many of you will enjoy telling me, but honestly I doubt it......

I think Boris will win but it's way too early to call it. He could still do something very silly that will do him damage.

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

All this stick Corbyn is still getting over anti-semitism when there is a stone cold racist leading the Tories who has said some outrageous things in his time that could only come from the mind of a racist in sheep's clothing.

 

[Seanjd]

They are also completely fed up with Parliament (Corbyn and Swinson and Sturgeons little group) getting in the way of Brexit. You may not think so but I do.

For a seemingly intelligent person, you are a soundbiter’s dream.

Also, you forgot the DUP.

 

[Seanjd]

I think Boris will win but it's way too early to call it. He could still do something very silly that will do him damage.

I don’t think he can. He has a track record of doing silly, or what I would call very offensive/damaging things, and people such as Pete who will vote for him see it as a bit of humour. Unfortunately, I think he will get a majority. I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t trust the majority of the public to reject a racist narcissist who has not shown any competency to be able to be PM.

 

[zzr45]

I don’t think he can. He has a track record of doing silly, or what I would call very offensive/damaging things, and people such as Pete who will vote for him see it as a bit of humour. Unfortunately, I think he will get a majority. I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t trust the majority of the public to reject a racist narcissist who has not shown any competency to be able to be PM.

But enough about Corbyn for today.

 

[Big_nev]

Let's just say it.

If you vote Tory you are a bad self serving bellend and a shitty person to boot. Not only do you not give a single toss about the most vulnerable in society you are happy for more of the same austerity that has decimated the country in the past decade. Hand wave it away all you want, make up excuses to try and justify it but the cold truth is this country is full to the brim of goons. Same deal with the Brexit Party, a vote for them is a vote for a lack of self respect. It's gutter politics for gutter people.

 

[Number_25]

Let's just say it.

If you vote Tory you are a bad self serving bellend and a shitty person to boot. Not only do you not give a single [Poor language removed] about the most vulnerable in society you are happy for more of the same austerity that has decimated the country in the past decade. Hand wave it away all you want, make up excuses to try and justify it but the cold truth is this country is full to the brim of [Poor language removed]. Same deal with the Brexit Party, a vote for them is a vote for a lack of self respect. It's gutter politics for gutter people.

Why sit on the fence?

 

[dannyboy]

Let's just say it.

If you vote Tory you are a bad self serving bellend and a shitty person to boot. Not only do you not give a single toss about the most vulnerable in society you are happy for more of the same austerity that has decimated the country in the past decade. Hand wave it away all you want, make up excuses to try and justify it but the cold truth is this country is full to the brim of goons. Same deal with the Brexit Party, a vote for them is a vote for a lack of self respect. It's gutter politics for gutter people.

Corbyn would have been better served just saying this to Andrew Neil then walking out of the room.

 

[Deleted member 48881]

I am sure Tories paid that rabbi off, why would you do that before an election which is very vital. Just bcs he is against Israel's expansionist politics, doesn't make him an anti-semite