Current Affairs The General Election

Voting Intentions

  • Labour

    Votes: 209 61.1%
  • Tories

    Votes: 30 8.8%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 20 5.8%
  • Brexit Gubbins

    Votes: 8 2.3%
  • Greens

    Votes: 8 2.3%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Change UK, if that's their current moniker

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • SNP

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • DUP

    Votes: 3 0.9%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 9 2.6%
  • Alliance

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • SDLP

    Votes: 2 0.6%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • Some fringe party with a catchy name

    Votes: 7 2.0%
  • A plague on all your houses

    Votes: 32 9.4%

  • Total voters
    342
  • Poll closed .
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Scrapping tuition fees is an utterly ridiculous policy. One of the worst going around.

The current system is fine. And I say that as someone who pays a bit back every month.

You get your loans and it's free at the point of use. You dont even physically hand over any money. Its done by the student loans company. You pay back at a pretty low rate only when you can afford to. It's like 9% of everything over about 18k. Then the residual is written off after 25 years.

It's a graduate tax to all intents and purposes and it's very fair. Why should my parents who did not go to university and have worked hard all their lives pay even more for my privilege.

If anything I think us graduates should possibly be made paid back slightly more. Not the government giving it to us for free.

Your degree isn't in economics, I take it?
 
Scrapping tuition fees is an utterly ridiculous policy. One of the worst going around.

The current system is fine. And I say that as someone who pays a bit back every month.

You get your loans and it's free at the point of use. You dont even physically hand over any money. Its done by the student loans company. You pay back at a pretty low rate only when you can afford to. It's like 9% of everything over about 18k. Then the residual is written off after 25 years.

It's a graduate tax to all intents and purposes and it's very fair. Why should my parents who did not go to university and have worked hard all their lives pay even more for my privilege.

If anything I think us graduates should possibly be made paid back slightly more. Not the government giving it to us for free.

On the flip side, if you are a young graduate who moves to London and gets a decent job (middling in London) but has zero family wealth to get on the housing ladder, those hundreds of pounds coming out of your pay each month can seem like a fairly onerous and regressive tax that makes it harder to progress.

The people it impacts least are those from already wealth families. For the poorest graduates it is a regressive further income tax.
 
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About right. Would be mad to be betting against a Tory majority the way things are at the mo.

Might change though, who knows, but I think Momentum/Corbyn fans are going to finally realise just how much of a bubble they've been in.

Or just blame the media as usual, either/or.

I think a Tory majority is far from assured; markets have priced in roughly a 63% chance, but that means a 37% chance of them falling short..

The path for any party to winning a clear majority is now much harder than it was pre-2015 with the way Scottish seats have swung to the SNP.. it's not an insurmountable problem for the Tories as they have traditionally relied on middle-England, but Lab has always been an coalition of the rest of the country, and without the Scottish seats they could nearly always rely on, it's almost impossible to see how they can ever win a clear majority again.
 
Christ I tend to keep away from a lot of mainstream media and ditched most social media a few years ago. Is everyone still going on about this McDonalds thing?
All Labour need to do to win this election is keep things simple and highlight the utter shambles of a Tory government for the last 10 years. They don’t need to be getting involved in a dispute over McDonald’s staff pay at this time.
 
What’s the median wage in Denmark?

Because it’s a lot higher than the UK, isn’t it?
Lazy comparison. Higher cost of living in Denmark, meaning higher base wages. I don't even need to check this to know its right.

The problem is for the UK to jump to that level you'd quickly see the effects of inflation.

The Copy-Paste without checking King does it again
 
Johnson's Q&A was absolutely bloody depressing earlier. He doesn't seem able to point to a single positive thing the Tories have done in almost 10 years in government. All he does is [Poor language removed] off the opposition.

People will still vote for the blustering shagspot in droves though.

It's the Tory way mate. I've never seen them fight an election on positives of what they have done, more on scare tactics. Just look at this thread and see how many people fall for it and you can see why they are so good at it.
 
Christ I tend to keep away from a lot of mainstream media and ditched most social media a few years ago. Is everyone still going on about this McDonalds thing?
All Labour need to do to win this election is keep things simple and highlight the utter shambles of a Tory government for the last 10 years. They don’t need to be getting involved in a dispute over McDonald’s staff pay at this time.

I agree that what the Tories have done in the last ten years is what Labour should be focusing on - and just this evening, there is something else to condemn - but really this debate over £15 just illustrates what a mountain Labour have to climb. Somehow apparently six people who work in South London branches of McDonalds have generated about a dozen pages of condemnation, over two days, on an Everton forum because someone else supported them taking strike action.

I mean what this government is responsible for - Brexit, boosting Scottish independence, increasing the national debt, kicking British people out of Britain, removing "red tape" with entirely predictable consequences, Universal Credit, allying with some incredibly dodgy characters across the globe and managing to destabilize the middle east even more than Blair did - should be obvious. It should not need Labour or anyone else to make people not vote Tory, especially given how many people have been impacted by what they have done.
 
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