The Everton Board Thread (Inc. Bill Kenwright / Blue Union)

[LTblue]

The be all and end all is that, there's nothing we can do really until a solid bid is made to purchase the club and there has been not one of those, we can protest all we like but it's not gonna help. Bill Kenwright has done a lot of bad things in charge of the club, but we are not in disaster zone right now, we are just not in a position to invest heavily in the squad either, this is the cause of frustration amongst us all,but I don't see how there is anything we can do.

 

[thebluefox]

The be all and end all is that, there's nothing we can do really until a solid bid is made to purchase the club and there has been not one of those, we can protest all we like but it's not gonna help. Bill Kenwright has done a lot of bad things in charge of the club, but we are not in disaster zone right now, we are just not in a position to invest heavily in the squad either, this is the cause of frustration amongst us all,but I don't see how there is anything we can do.

sit on r arse and hope we fin 7th again ,

 

[LTblue]

sit on r arse and hope we fin 7th again ,

Protests will unsettle playing staff, playing staff that are still capable of outdoing a top 7 finish with a good start, we could do without the same uncertainty that came with the start of last season, with the bs from our chairman and the marching, it was detrimental to playing staff.

 

[Woolly Blue]

The be all and end all is that, there's nothing we can do really until a solid bid is made to purchase the club and there has been not one of those, we can protest all we like but it's not gonna help. Bill Kenwright has done a lot of bad things in charge of the club, but we are not in disaster zone right now, we are just not in a position to invest heavily in the squad either, this is the cause of frustration amongst us all,but I don't see how there is anything we can do.

Dunno about that mate. If the right type of pressure is applied then at least the board know that people are keeping an eye on them. In an ideal world they might even show a bit more business acumen cos if they do that, it gives them a better chance of selling the club at whatever they think is a good price.

The BU make a lot of mistakes, but at least they're making an effort.

 

[thebluefox]

Protests will unsettle playing staff, playing staff that are still capable of outdoing a top 7 finish with a good start, we could do without the same uncertainty that came with the start of last season, with the bs from our chairman and the marching, it was detrimental to playing staff.

how many of the players do you speke too,jags has just come out and told the whole world we need investment or he fears losing r best players ,investment and kenwright doesnt work, ask the fonz and stallone ,lies lies lies ,

 

[kenada_blue]

Thats very general mate, when and in what context? what was their debt situation at the time of the bid, who made the bid?

When he was gonna sell up in in 2008/2009.

In fact he pumped 200+mill into the club, lowered his asking price to 100million...and still no one would pay it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/7615618.stm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...5/Mike-Ashley-to-sell-Newcastle-for-100m.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-Mike-Ashley-dithers-80m-sale-Barry-Moat.html

 

[kenada_blue]

Protests will unsettle playing staff, playing staff that are still capable of outdoing a top 7 finish with a good start, we could do without the same uncertainty that came with the start of last season, with the bs from our chairman and the marching, it was detrimental to playing staff.

A good start involves not selling players to strengthen the team. One step forward, two steps back

 

[LTblue]

Dunno about that mate. If the right type of pressure is applied then at least the board know that people are keeping an eye on them. In an ideal world they might even show a bit more business acumen cos if they do that, it gives them a better chance of selling the club at whatever they think is a good price.

The BU make a lot of mistakes, but at least they're making an effort.

mate, BU make an effort, but I promise you it's not helping us to make progress at all, as I showed earlier with the lad heading up the marches, that's the kind that make up the majority of the bu, the board will buzz off it or discard it. The big moment will come if there is a solid bid made for the club through investors that can take the club forward, that's when there will be when there is something tangible to pin up against the board.

 

[LTblue]

A good start involves not selling players to strengthen the team. One step forward, two steps back

I will always welcome sales if it means quality reinvestment, see UTD., Borussia Dortmund, Newcastle, Montpellier, Valencia. and all our itks say it would mean just that, IF players were sold. that's how we improve until we have mega bucks, that is just the state of play in football.

 

[kenada_blue]

I do see where you are coming from but we finished 7th this season, we got a few good signings in Jelavic and Gibbo. How can someone else come onboard and magic money from anyhere without having to sell players in the current climate?
I am a business owner and a few years ago banks would give me money without even hesitating, hardly any checks at all. Now I cant even get a loan against my frigging house. The banks have pretty much closed up shop. Everton are just the same, they can only borrow on stuff like the SKY money and other guarantee'd income. I dont see how anyone else can squeeze anymore money out of the banks better than the current board.
If its some kind of consortium you're hoping for then we wouldnt be any different than we are now. Even if someone came along with half a million in the bank, still no good for us.
The only way to make the club look more attractive is to finish higher, do well in Europe. Now without any sarcastic replies and blinkered view toward the BU, how much would we need to break into the top 4 and CL positions? To make enough money to sustain a top 4 club including the new players/squad, and their wages?

Id say we would need a billion pounds which would include the price of the club, new stadium, new squad etc etc.

Liverpool threw 120m into it last season and finished below us, forgot the rivalry for a minute, thats just crazy! Spurs can afford to turn down a 40m+ offer from Chelsea for Modric, how much do you have to have behind you to turn that down?
Chelsea are just about to spend their CL 100m on a few new players, Man Utd are going to be spending big too, City obviously and Arsenal have already started spending big. How the hell can we break into there without HUGE investment. I doubt even if Bill gave the club away for nothing and walked away there would be anyone financially viable to move the club forward from where are now.

Looks like the guy who owns Sale Sharks is going for Blackburn, bet he gets it for a cut price too. He cannot invest once hes bought it, so he will rely on the parachute payments and try to off load the big earners and start all over again. How the mighty have fallen.

You will probably come back and rubbish everything I have said, then someone will come and say how my opinion dosent count because I dont go home and away every single game. I dont care. I just think unless we can sell to another City/Chelsea owner type then we would be worse off than Bill and his boys club.

Not really and sharpys spot on. We need someone who knows how to run and get the best out of the football club, not necessary by spunking money into players.

Off the field, merchandise, exposure, commercial, needs improving unless kenwright et all have done the best they can and we can't get better - something I doubt with all the avenues moyes has created.

It's about a future, a vision. Something the current regime dont have and are staying afloat hand to mouth

 

[Brennan]

Not really and sharpys spot on. We need someone who knows how to run and get the best out of the football club, not necessary by spunking money into players.

Off the field, merchandise, exposure, commercial, needs improving unless kenwright et all have done the best they can and we can't get better - something I doubt with all the avenues moyes has created.

It's about a future, a vision. Something the current regime dont have and are staying afloat hand to mouth

If it's that easy, why has nobody just made detailed plans and sent them to the club, or posted them on here ?

I'm not saying it's not possible, but it's very easy to just say 'the club isn't being run well enough' without offering alternatives or explaining why.

 

[kenada_blue]

I will always welcome sales if it means quality reinvestment, see UTD., Borussia Dortmund, Newcastle, Montpellier, Valencia. and all our itks say it would mean just that, IF players were sold. that's how we improve until we have mega bucks, that is just the state of play in football.

So selling Baines to fund a player at 5million eg Pienaar is something you fully back?

We are not talking bringing in 10mill players, its about trying to buy players in the price range championship clubs can easily afford. We struggle with even that.

 

[D410]

Owners allegedly pissing away millions on roulette wheels doesn't help a certain club in financial straits either. I expect the casino's loss could be that club's gain in the transfer.

He does frequent along with Pip. Another game that people who can,t afford to play should,nt participate.

long time ago heard that player bungs were dropped on tables as chips for other to pick up - non traceable.

 

[LTblue]

So selling Baines to fund a player at 5million eg Pienaar is something you fully back?

We are not talking bringing in 10mill players, its about trying to buy players in the price range championship clubs can easily afford. We struggle with even that.

no mate, I think our itk's have all said a significant amount of any fee for Baines would go back into the squad, so imagine we sell Baines for £22m and bring Pienaar, Donovan, Dempsey and Fabian Johnson in to the squad in his place, our squad would be better then it was last season, so yes one step backwards, but then potentially two steps forward.

 

[kenada_blue]

If it's that easy, why has nobody just made detailed plans and sent them to the club, or posted them on here ?

I'm not saying it's not possible, but it's very easy to just say 'the club isn't being run well enough' without offering alternatives or explaining why.

Detailed plans for how the club can maximize their revenue streams? Do I have money to do something the club should be doing anyway?

These phantom buyers who have come in, like bill has said, will have had to come in with a proposal, a vision...then they talk price of how much the club is worth and were still here 12 years later.

Additionally, unless all these people that have come to bill with proposals and a vision for the club have been so poor he's turned them away...where is his vision of the future for the club? He has none.

Villa make more money commercially than us for years, Fulham and west ham on par with us...

If that's all we can do, then ill hold my hands up.

Bottom line is going to be the price. Bills made enough noise to say he doesn't want any snide taking over the club. Dont you think someone legit would have come in by now? Unless every one in the world is dodgy as fook over 12 years...