The Everton Board Thread (Inc. Bill Kenwright / Blue Union)

[Silas]

I think its also worth pointing out mate, that they were part of the objectionable legal element at the Kirkby enquiry employing a legal team to challenge the club. They actually appointed a legal team and spent money in a process that cost Everton close and prob above 10 mill. Clapped when the descison was called in and now form a different organisation to complain about the subsequent maliese they fought so hard for - what did they expect - they contributed to it.

Secondly - they have told whoppers about the annexe and the context for the delay, thirdly the subsquent secret recording of the alledged interview with Bill has their finger prints all over it.

They are a disgracefull organisation, who have contributed nothing but bad practicaly to the club and done nothing but besmirch the good name of the club and its supporters ever since its inception.

Too be fair there was a representative from each group at that meeting so they (and I include myself in this), take responsibility for the recording.

 

[Neiler]

Too be fair there was a representative from each group at that meeting so they (and I include myself in this), take responsibility for the recording.

I take that point mate, what i would say is that the moral compass and indeed the terms of reference of the BU and indeed the entire process of the various splinters started going way of, post KEIOC involvement.

Would be interesting to know, who and the mechanics of the process of deciding to record the meeting.

 

[zed]

(keioc) Clapped when the descison was called in and now form a different organisation to complain about the subsequent maliese they fought so hard for - what did they expect - they contributed to it.

the project was thrown out by central government, i`d say this had nothing to do with KEIOC. also EFC spent `10mil` of their own accord- it could be said that if Everton didnt go blindly down the DK alley they wouldve saved themselves the money. you cant blame KEIOC for a bad idea dreamed up by EFC.

 

[Chang Elephant]

The rent wasnt the big mark up mate apparently, but by all means post for posting sake.

Bit low on substance that reply from someone that doesn't post for postings sake.

Given there was a massive jump in the operating costs several years ago, and they haven't come back down since, it's not a "one off" mark up. Something's produced an annual effect on these costs, you haven't a scooby what that is.

"It’s just a heading, what’s the heading again?”

 

[Neiler]

Bit low on substance that reply from someone that doesn't post for postings sake.

Given there was a massive jump in the operating costs several years ago, and they haven't come back down since, it's not a "one off" mark up. Something's produced an annual effect on these costs, you haven't a scooby what that is.

"It’s just a heading, what’s the heading again?”

I do mate, obviously you haven't read the transcript of the breakdown from yesterday - in regard to operating costs (if indeed its accurate), if so you would know its not the rent. If not i posted a thread on operating costs many months ago on here - have a squiz. Its not up to me to give you the information you need to post relevant points to the debate.

I have no interest in mud slinging with you, its yawning.

 

[Chang Elephant]

Too be fair there was a representative from each group at that meeting so they (and I include myself in this), take responsibility for the recording.

"Take responsibility" seems the wrong phrase mate. "Take credit" seems more appropriate....you were invited to a meeting with an agreement you could report back to fans on what was said, interviewing the guy that presented the fortress fund investment to an AGM, and who asked you not to take notes as soon as you arrived.

Without any hypothetical tape, if one exists, you'd have been wide open to legal action when reporting the strange and surreal content of what the buffoon actually said. It's put some transparency into what's going on.

 

[Chang Elephant]

I do mate, obviously you haven't read the transcript of the breakdown from yesterday - in regard to operating costs (if indeed its accurate), if so you would know its not the rent. If not i posted a thread on operating costs many months ago on here - have a squiz. Its not up to me to give you the information you need to post relevant points to the debate.

I have no interest in mud slinging with you, its yawning.

"the rise of operating costs, largely it seems down to running Finch Farm rather then Bellfeild"

You said that mate, can't help you if your memory's that shot.

You also mentioned rent.....if the costs of having leased facilities produces this massive annual increased cost, I'm not too arsed whether it's rent or some other vaguely specified running cost...real question is whether it was a good business decision, and if our business can service it going forward.

 

[Neiler]

"the rise of operating costs, largely it seems down to running Finch Farm rather then Bellfeild"

You said that mate, can't help you if your memory's that shot.

You also mentioned rent.....if the costs of having leased facilities produces this massive annual increased cost, I'm not too arsed whether it's rent or some other vaguely specified running cost...real question is whether it was a good business decision, and if our business can service it going forward.

That's a relief, I thought that massive rise might be caused by something like a bad business decision. But if it's to do with selling our original facilities then leasing new ones at a huge multiple of what they cost to build, then no problem.

I think you will find you brought up the leasing as the source of the operating costs mate, which is disingenuous - as above, its the costs in operating and running rather then leasing.

I think most fans would prefer to be at Finch rather then Bellfeild if we did a straw poll, i know i certainly do - so on the basis on whether that was a benifical decison or not, maybe its worth doing a poll.

 

[Goat]

Secondly - they have told whoppers about the annexe and the context for the delay, thirdly the subsquent secret recording of the alledged interview with Bill has their finger prints all over it.

Whats happening with the Annexe then?

You claim they lied, whats the truth?

 

[davek]

I think its also worth pointing out mate, that they were part of the objectionable legal element at the Kirkby enquiry employing a legal team to challenge the club. They actually appointed a legal team and spent money in a process that cost Everton close and prob above 10 mill. Clapped when the descison was called in and now form a different organisation to complain about the subsequent malaise they fought so hard for - what did they expect - they contributed to it.

Secondly - they have told whoppers about the annexe and the context for the delay, thirdly the subsquent secret recording of the alledged interview with Bill has their finger prints all over it.

They are a disgracefull organisation, who have contributed nothing but bad practicaly to the club and done nothing but besmirch the good name of the club and its supporters ever since its inception.

With the above in mind, i wouldnt want any hand act or part in anything they are involved with as from a moral and ethical point of view i dont think they have any standards, its sad and worrisome they are even remotely on the radar of anything to do with club or our support.

I think you've completely lost it. That's one of the most seriously out to lunch posts I've seen on here...and there's been some stiff competition. The sense of hatred towards people you've never met is alarming. How you manage that I dont know. And it's like you operate in an alternative universe - a universe where it's not really the people in control of the football club who are responsible for failing to build a stadium (twice), not really them who screwed up on the delivery of the Park End annexe, not really them who loaded debt onto the club to the extent that the banks were about to 'kill us', and neither was it them who've threatened to take Evertonians to court on numerous occasions...oh no, it wasn't the owners of the club responsible for all those woes...it was KEIOC!!!

It must be scary in your world mate.

 

[Silas]

"Take responsibility" seems the wrong phrase mate. "Take credit" seems more appropriate....you were invited to a meeting with an agreement you could report back to fans on what was said, interviewing the guy that presented the fortress fund investment to an AGM, and who asked you not to take notes as soon as you arrived.

Without any hypothetical tape, if one exists, you'd have been wide open to legal action when reporting the strange and surreal content of what the buffoon actually said. It's put some transparency into what's going on.

Nah it's the right term mate. I and others take responsibility for the good and the bad following that. It will be debated to infinity whether the Kenwright meeting was a good or bad thing for the BU and Everton in general.

 

[Xavi]

I think you've completely lost it. That's one of the most seriously out to lunch posts I've seen on here...and there's been some stiff competition. The sense of hatred towards people you've never met is alarming. How you manage that I dont know. And it's like you operate in an alternative universe - a universe where it's not really the people in control of the football club who are responsible for failing to build a stadium (twice), not really them who screwed up on the delivery of the Park End annexe, not really them who loaded debt onto the club to the extent that the banks were about to 'kill us', and neither was it them who've threatened to take Evertonians to court on numerous occasions...oh no, it wasn't the owners of the club responsible for all those woes...it was KEIOC!!!

It must be scary in your world mate.

DaveK I agree with all your post's mate and the whole Kenwright ( board) thread debate , and the large majority do too looking at the above poll at the top ^^^, but why spend the amount of time you do replying to Neiler's posts , you's don't agree on anything , and no matter how you put it to him he's never going to see your / our side to it , he obviously loves Kenwright for what ever reason and thinks he's not to blame for media outlets now comparing us to Charlton Athletic because of the power we now have in the transfer Market or lack of it I should say , your fighting a loosing battle with him Dave IMO and should concentrate more time into people who aren't quite sure , and their are people in the thread as the poll above shows

 

[Mvflusk]

Keioc have spent the past 4 years telling us that Philip Green secretly owns EFC now they are calling for Bill Kenwright to sell the club.

Which is it?

And you can guarantee that if this silly "interim board" idea ever happened they (Fitz and Kelly) would demand one of them were on it. Control via the back door.

 

[Goat]

Keioc have spent the past 4 years telling us that Philip Green secretly owns EFC now they are calling for Bill Kenwright to sell the club.

Which is it?

Both?

 

[The Blue Union]

Thanks to all who attended yesterday. It was a well attended meeting and the presentation given by Colin Fitz was absolutely spot on and scary in parts. Hopefully over the coming days the website will be up and running and we will be able to get the slides up there in public for all to see.