The Everton Board Thread 2015/16 [ Not takeover related ]

[daz4matty]

I can see the arguments from both sides to be honest
Yes kenwright has presided over some absolute [Poor language removed], ie kings dock, Kirkby being the worst two, closely followed by the blatant lying which he has admitted to over the fortress sports fund
However at the same time I am glad he's never just sold up to the first bloke who flashed the cash and landed us in the type of situation that Portsmouth, Newcastle, hull, Cardiff, Blackburn etc have ended up in
We could do a lot worse
Don't understand the people who have a go for him not putting his own money in though, why should he?
Imagine if you owned a business would you just lump in millions of your money that you would likely never see again? Would you bollocks

Bill has conned the fans for 16 years he is that good at it.
Most are waking up to the liar and fraud he is,i hope you wake up before your watching us in the championship

 

[daz4matty]

I can see the arguments from both sides to be honest
Yes kenwright has presided over some absolute [Poor language removed], ie kings dock, Kirkby being the worst two, closely followed by the blatant lying which he has admitted to over the fortress sports fund
However at the same time I am glad he's never just sold up to the first bloke who flashed the cash and landed us in the type of situation that Portsmouth, Newcastle, hull, Cardiff, Blackburn etc have ended up in
We could do a lot worse
Don't understand the people who have a go for him not putting his own money in though, why should he?
Imagine if you owned a business would you just lump in millions of your money that you would likely never see again? Would you bollocks

Bill has conned the fans for 16 years he is that good at it.
Most are waking up to the liar and fraud he is,i hope you wake up before your watching us in the championship

 

[Dithering Dougie]

Bill has conned the fans for 16 years he is that good at it.
Most are waking up to the liar and fraud he is,i hope you wake up before your watching us in the championship

Why do you think we'll end up in the championship?

 

[daz4matty]

Why do you think we'll end up in the championship?

Eventually the power of money will dictate which league teams are in.
We have over achieved for years mate it will not go on indefinately.
It won't matter who is manager because clubs will just outspend us which they are doing now.
Our board has no ambition they will gamble with our future to pocket the billions on offer

 

[Dithering Dougie]

Eventually the power of money will dictate which league teams are in.
We have over achieved for years mate it will not go on indefinately.
It won't matter who is manager because clubs will just outspend us which they are doing now.
Our board has no ambition they will gamble with our future to pocket the billions on offer

How long do reckon we've got before the relegation?

 

[roydo]

gamble with our future to pocket the billions on offer

I look forward to you showing proof that has happened mate.

 

[RaleighBlue]

I'm always fascinated by the idea that is often thrown around in sports (in particular) that the only way to market your product is for the product to be successful on the pitch. It simply doesn't wash with reality.

A few thoughts on that front follow.

Firstly, if you cannot market a club beyond its success, how do any clubs that are not challenging for honours year in, year out have any sort of fanbase whatsoever. Spurs and Liverpool are examples of clubs with large, growing, non-English fanbases that simply will not win the league anytime soon. If winning trophies was the only barometer for the success of a product, then they should rightly be lumped with us, Southampton, and even Stoke as also-rans. Even accounting for their history (which has no bearing on current success), we should be up there with them.

Secondly, it is not true in any business. For example, Beats headphones are widely regarded as overpriced inferior headphones by anyone that pays attention to audio quality. Yet I see everyone wearing them, and they make tons of money. All via marketing their 'inferior' product more effectively than superior brands. This is precisely what Liverpool in particular do very well.

Everton have an extremely marketable 'story'. And marketing is just telling stories in a way that makes the consumer want to be a part of the brand. It's what Apple does so well (not impinging upon the quality of their product, just noting the wild success of their marketing - let's call them the United of this scenario). They make people that don't have the time or energy to devote to learning the ins and outs of the options (as they are vast and plentiful) simply desire to be a part of the brand. Apple must be good, look how cool their stuff looks, look how cool their commercials are, and then you get converts. And zealous converts convert new people.

The reason I consider Kenwright and this board a failure, is due to their inability to recognize the marketable aspects of the club and grow it commercially via those methods. This inaction has led to a stagnation in the eyes of the press and new fans of English football. Which leads to Everton losing value to potential investors and buyers - they have to do all the work! That's even giving the board what is almost certainly undue leniency and assuming that they are actively seeking buyers.

 

[daz4matty]

I look forward to you showing proof that has happened mate.

Not saying it has yet though i would love to know where the sky billions are.
The next few seasons there will be double and treble the amount coming in from the overseas deals and it will be very interesting watching what happens at our club

 

[daz4matty]

I look forward to you showing proof that has happened mate.

Not saying it has yet though i would love to know where the sky billions are.
The next few seasons there will be double and treble the amount coming in from the overseas deals and it will be very interesting watching what happens at our club

 

[roydo]

The reason I consider Kenwright and this board a failure, is due to their inability to recognize the marketable aspects of the club and grow it commercially via those methods. This inaction has led to a stagnation in the eyes of the press and new fans of English football. Which leads to Everton losing value to potential investors and buyers - they have to do all the work! That's even giving the board what is almost certainly undue leniency and assuming that they are actively seeking buyers

Difficult to disagree with a word of that. I remember the "why dont we capitalise on the Howard mania" after his WC exploits in the US.

Zippo.

 

[daz4matty]

How long do reckon we've got before the relegation?

Depends on which clubs spend what money over the next few seasons

 

[roydo]

Not saying it has yet though i would love to know where the sky billions are.
The next few seasons there will be double and treble the amount coming in from the overseas deals and it will be very interesting watching what happens at our club

Fair enough. Though "Interesting" isnt the word I would use. "Frightening" might be more apt. I am not a rabid supporter, or opponent come to that, of the Board. But I am concerned. To say the least.

 

[Dithering Dougie]

Depends on which clubs spend what money over the next few seasons

Got a ball park idea for when it happens though? because I don't see it happening under this board/ownership considering there's very few clubs in not just this country, the rest of the world, with finances as strong as our, and in twelve months time a new TV deal is introduced which will only strengthen our position.

 

[bobby's brown loafers]

Bill has conned the fans for 16 years he is that good at it.
Most are waking up to the liar and fraud he is,i hope you wake up before your watching us in the championship

[Poor language removed] hell I heard you the first time!
Genuine question, not trying to start an argument, but why do you think we'll end up in the championship?
I realise he has blatantly lied, see my previous post, but I don't see how if we carry on as we are right now we'll end up in the championship
If we do it will be down to the manager not the chairman

 

[daz4matty]

Got a ball park idea for when it happens though? because I don't see it happening under this board/ownership considering there's very few clubs in not just this country, the rest of the world, with finances as strong as our, and in twelve months time a new TV deal is introduced which will only strengthen our position.

That was said about this deal though and we have spent 4 million.
Where is the rest of the millions do you think when all other clubs are spending theirs on good players