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This legislation has got little or nothing to do with any recent protests. It is purely about government control and stopping any investigation of their actions or dissent. The recent protest are nothing on the scale of what we had back in the latter half of the last century and the erly part of this. We had full blown riots in the eighties as well as more normal protests. If any government back then had tried to do what this one is planning the situation would have been much worse and the government would have faced a massive back-lash. People like yourself will willingly help facilitate a situation here where the government can do whatever it wants to whoever it wants with no scrutiny whatsoever.
Was the current government in charge during those riots?

Times have changed. It's extremely dismissive to say all that last year has no bearing on rulings immediatly being discussed afterwards, especially after police were attacked by rioters. People rioted for their jobs during the 80s, for their wages. This city rioted because it was unjustly affected by the government. Compared to last year when America kicked off over a valid race issue and a bunch of young tits pulled a statue down here. Or over a murder, people rioted at a vigil. Massive difference there.

Before you think I'd facilitate anything, my last post mentioned peaceful protesting against it. So what exactly am I facilitating? Don't act like tits and expect the government to do nothing?

People should be angry about those 1%, rather than defending them.
 
It didn't exist until people started doing that though?

All in the name of protest.

The Tories didn't get up one day and decide to clamp down on protesting for a laugh. It was when people tore down statues in the name of racism, when people rioted against police in the name of sexism and as a ironic turn, smashing up police vans and buildings in the name of protesting the actual bill.

And it's a minority , that's what makes this ten times worse. It's not the actual protestors at all, the 1% who decided to take it too far. If you really don't think these measures existing right after all that happened then I'm not sure how else to convince you.
I remember going to a Reclaim the Streets protest/party in the '90s where they held a rave on the M40, dug holes in the tarmac with kango hammers and planted trees there.

Much worse has happened in the past without any need for legislation like this.
 
What a moron. Amazes me that these thoughts could even come into someone’s head, let alone to then air them in public.

Also, not to nitpick this idiot, but Luke Skywalker was never played by a woman
Not just saying them spontaneously either - he wrote that spiel down, presumably reviewed it and still read it out in public!

Do feel that some woman missed a trick in being able to blame her murder spree on the influence of Tom Baker’s scarf lol
 
I remember going to a Reclaim the Streets protest/party in the '90s where they held a rave on the M40, dug holes in the tarmac with kango hammers and planted trees there.

Much worse has happened in the past without any need for legislation like this.
Yes it has, but it has justification. That's the distinct difference, you can't justify the rioting that took place last year, especially when people wanted to protest.

Sadly I am too young to know what that was so to save googling it to pretend like I do, I'll acknowledge that perhaps this isn't a new thing, but it is a different time.
 
Not just saying them spontaneously either - he wrote that spiel down, presumably reviewed it and still read it out in public!

Do feel that some woman missed a trick in being able to blame her murder spree on the influence of Tom Baker’s scarf lol
It’s pretty orchestrated I think. The battle for the next election will be fought on the absolutely meaningless and fabricated ‘woke’ issues
 
It didn't exist until people started doing that though?

All in the name of protest.

The Tories didn't get up one day and decide to clamp down on protesting for a laugh. It was when people tore down statues in the name of racism, when people rioted against police in the name of sexism and as a ironic turn, smashing up police vans and buildings in the name of protesting the actual bill.

And it's a minority , that's what makes this ten times worse. It's not the actual protestors at all, the 1% who decided to take it too far. If you really don't think these measures existing right after all that happened then I'm not sure how else to convince you.

What, this bit of legislation?

This manifestly doesn't come from BLM, the anti-BLM protests or even most of the Extinction Rebellion protests (the street-blocking ones at least). All of those were covered by existing legislation which was used to both control those demonstrations and to prosecute and convict people afterwards.

For example, the current offence of criminal damage (ie: tearing down statues, smashing up police vans or graffiting buildings) dates from 1971. Obstructing the highway has been an offence since 1980. There is very little justification to bring in huge new bits of legislation to deal with those protests; if they wanted to improve it a bit (for example making obstruction an offence for which you could get locked up) then they could have just amended it and if they wanted to enhance the police response to those demos they could replace the cops they cut (and the cells they closed, and the courts they closed etc etc).

If there is a source for this bit of legislation, it is a combination of the government being panicked by one XR demo (the one where they prevented the Murdoch rags from going out one morning) and their worry about what is likely to happen over the next few years. This notion that the misbehaving 1% are to blame is, frankly, risible.
 
What, this bit of legislation?

This manifestly doesn't come from BLM, the anti-BLM protests or even most of the Extinction Rebellion protests (the street-blocking ones at least). All of those were covered by existing legislation which was used to both control those demonstrations and to prosecute and convict people afterwards.

For example, the current offence of criminal damage (ie: tearing down statues, smashing up police vans or graffiting buildings) dates from 1971. Obstructing the highway has been an offence since 1980. There is very little justification to bring in huge new bits of legislation to deal with those protests; if they wanted to improve it a bit (for example making obstruction an offence for which you could get locked up) then they could have just amended it and if they wanted to enhance the police response to those demos they could replace the cops they cut (and the cells they closed, and the courts they closed etc etc).

If there is a source for this bit of legislation, it is a combination of the government being panicked by one XR demo (the one where they prevented the Murdoch rags from going out one morning) and their worry about what is likely to happen over the next few years. This notion that the misbehaving 1% are to blame is, frankly, risible.
Then I stand corrected as I was not aware there was things in place already for those specific things.
 
What a moron. Amazes me that these thoughts could even come into someone’s head, let alone to then air them in public.

Also, not to nitpick this idiot, but Luke Skywalker was never played by a woman
Not if the woke mafia have their way mate, it'll be Lucy Skywalker, Hannah Solo and Chewbella the Wookie before you can say 'Jawa's Lives Matter'.
 
I remember going to a Reclaim the Streets protest/party in the '90s where they held a rave on the M40, dug holes in the tarmac with kango hammers and planted trees there.

Much worse has happened in the past without any need for legislation like this.
I'm having flashbacks to the Poll Tax riots, and the riots in 2011 which seemed to have been airbrushed from history.
 
I remember going to a Reclaim the Streets protest/party in the '90s where they held a rave on the M40, dug holes in the tarmac with kango hammers and planted trees there.

Much worse has happened in the past without any need for legislation like this.
I remember going to one in Edinburgh. Was chaos. Saw a hippy fly kick a 10 year old who’d stole his manky trainers.
 
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