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[trueblue84]

She's easily wound up and is a PR disaster waiting to happen with the exposure of her new position. She was being lauded in GB News circles a few months ago for picking a Twitter fight with David Tennant, but I think the public want a bit more from their potential PMs than public spats with Dr Who.

You just have to look at America. We are heading for a carbon copy of their "politics". Gaffes and lies won't matter. The riots off the back of the Southport stabbing were an ominous sign of how close we are to slipping into the war on (mis)information.

 

[Harryflashman]

You just have to look at America. We are heading for a carbon copy of their "politics". Gaffes and lies won't matter. The riots off the back of the Southport stabbing were an ominous sign of how close we are to slipping into the war on (mis)information.

To your point If you look at an interview with farage this morning he’s talking about tice being denied a question , warned off , on Southport despite farage knowing full well there is not just a parliamentary tradition surrounding sub judice but actual rules .

Ive no love for the the likes of Sunak , cleverly , mourdant or hunt but I don’t believe they’d weaponise the deaths of children and stoke fires , literal fires , and risk riots even further deaths in the pursuit of power but this is where we are . The country is in a mess and the further right we lurch the more scumbags like farage will seek to profit .

 

[Xizor]

You just have to look at America. We are heading for a carbon copy of their "politics". Gaffes and lies won't matter. The riots off the back of the Southport stabbing were an ominous sign of how close we are to slipping into the war on (mis)information.

You're not wrong (the ongoing popularity of Johnson is proof of that) but there are two points I'd make in response. The first is that our parliamentary system isn't a straight shot popularity contest between two candidates the way a US Presidential election is, and the second is that unlike the Republicans, the Tories currently have a solid bloc on their own Right in the shape of Reform, and in Farage they have a leader that plays the game Badenoch wants to play far more effectively than she'll be able to.

 

[Rita_Poon]

You're not wrong (the ongoing popularity of Johnson is proof of that) but there are two points I'd make in response. The first is that our parliamentary system isn't a straight shot popularity contest between two candidates the way a US Presidential election is, and the second is that unlike the Republicans, the Tories currently have a solid bloc on their own Right in the shape of Reform, and in Farage they have a leader that plays the game Badenoch wants to play far more effectively than she'll be able to.

So they're only a substantive sized force when together, so the more nuts farage talks up the more she/they have to respond in kind and the further right they drift. farage never has to deliver until labour make such a mess he becomes king maker and throws his party behind the tory machine. Can labour and to an extent the lib dems go out to bat and keep their respective wickets. hopefully there isn't another slug like clegg that'll sell out to the tories in a heartbeat again. Hmmm, the looming redemption of boris.

 

[Rita_Poon]

If she get's that poisoned chalice, I have an opportune bit of politicking for the starmer-drama.

First PMQ's, I'd give way to Diane Abbott to ask badenoch how she feels representing frank hester and his £10 million donation to the party she leads.

Very much this. Hammer them with sleaze straight away.

 

[trueblue84]

You're not wrong (the ongoing popularity of Johnson is proof of that) but there are two points I'd make in response. The first is that our parliamentary system isn't a straight shot popularity contest between two candidates the way a US Presidential election is, and the second is that unlike the Republicans, the Tories currently have a solid bloc on their own Right in the shape of Reform, and in Farage they have a leader that plays the game Badenoch wants to play far more effectively than she'll be able to.

I think our politics is heading that way. While I agree that our parliamentary system is different to the US, our "first past the post" voting system and both labour/conservatives domination effectively make it a binary choice.

At most elections, they tell you "it is us or them", and everything else is a wasted vote. Add to that, the likelihood that reform will merge back in with the Tories at some point, or at least collaborate with them for the next election and you are left with limited options for diluting the extreme lurches we seem to go through every decade.

 

[NeilMorepies]

 

[Aberblue]

If she get's that poisoned chalice, I have an opportune bit of politicking for the starmer-drama.

First PMQ's, I'd give way to Diane Abbott to ask badenoch how she feels representing frank hester and his £10 million donation to the party she leads.

The problem with that is that PMQ is questions to the Prime Minister, not questions from back benchers to the Leader of the Opposition.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

 

[Rita_Poon]

The problem with that is that PMQ is questions to the Prime Minister, not questions from back benchers to the Leader of the Opposition.

The exception that proves the rule. Present it as framing of the social media taunts and hysterics that lead to the summer riots, or the sleaze surrounding covid IT contracts and certain vip lane entrants providing kick backs for their selections. There people, ministers and companies are answerable to the public as it was the publics money being slushed back and forth.

 

[coollino]

Looks like she has sewn up the ex Liberal now gone mad with anti trans bile vote

The thinking centrist who 'just asks questions'

 

[davek]

Theylll have to hold another leadership election before 2029. She'll be a laughing stock. I suspect Jenrick knows it too.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Theylll have to hold another leadership election before 2029. She'll be a laughing stock. I suspect Jenrick knows it too.

He's been beaten. In the here and now. And his grubby mits were all over countless failures when he was in office.

 

[davek]

He's been beaten. In the here and now. And his grubby mits were all over countless failures when he was in office.

He made the final cut. I doubt he'll be anything but favourite if there were another election.

 

[Alan Whittle]

Boris is rubbing his hands.