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It’s Christmas time guys, goodwill to all, even conservative voters. Remember in one or two years, Starmer will be in no 10 and I’ll be having a whale of a time slagging you all off for his shambles and you voting for him. Other than Christmas obviously…….


Yeah, think we can all agree that it will be v hard for Starmer to follow up this amazing Tory government. What a whale of a time you will be able to have because you're old and English and don't have to worry about what this government will do next
 
If we're (wrongly) bringing covid into the debate, let's discuss Johnson's views on the elderly during that time.

It's actually frightening how some people are
utterly brainwashed by the Torys. Too much money and a very poor education, imo.

Or they simply just don't care. .wonder if they would be just walking past the" bodies piled up in the streets", whilst holding their noses..
 
When Boris was PM there was no likelihood of Starmer winning an election. Sunak was responsible for Truss because it was he who organised the backstabbing of Boris. However the wider Conservative Party members didn’t want Sunak and so we ended up with the lightweight Truss as PM. Sunak the snake then got in without a single vote from the wider party membership. We now sit in a position where Sunak is neither trusted by the wider party members, large elements of his MP’s nor those who voted for Boris and the Conservatives at the last election. That’s what I meant by single-handedly……

Pete the Tories are admitting this is the point it all started going Pete Tong, the Tory party demise started with Boris. Starmer took him apart in the Commons daily, why ? Because Starmer had a brain.
 
Bit of a trudge this, so I'll try to be brief. shamima begum had her citizenship removed. Left in refugee limbo effectively stateless. This Rwanda policy to deport refugee's. If the government don't like you, could they remove citizenship and fly you off to Rwanda, someone else's problem, I'm alright Jack.

How soon before some bright spark in tory hq dreams up a firm that'll build a prison in Rwanda to supplement prison spaces in the uk? We're on the cusp of some really bad things here.
 
Bit of a trudge this, so I'll try to be brief. shamima begum had her citizenship removed. Left in refugee limbo effectively stateless. This Rwanda policy to deport refugee's. If the government don't like you, could they remove citizenship and fly you off to Rwanda, someone else's problem, I'm alright Jack.

How soon before some bright spark in tory hq dreams up a firm that'll build a prison in Rwanda to supplement prison spaces in the uk? We're on the cusp of some really bad things here.

Rwanda is the new Australia.

You heard it here first on GOT News.
 
Bit of a trudge this, so I'll try to be brief. shamima begum had her citizenship removed. Left in refugee limbo effectively stateless. This Rwanda policy to deport refugee's. If the government don't like you, could they remove citizenship and fly you off to Rwanda, someone else's problem, I'm alright Jack.

How soon before some bright spark in tory hq dreams up a firm that'll build a prison in Rwanda to supplement prison spaces in the uk? We're on the cusp of some really bad things here.

Could actually think that could happen, put nothing past these gammons.
 
Maybe a simplistic view of things but …

The money being ploughed into this Rwanda debacle (not to mention the hours of work put in already wasted), would it not be more logical to use that money to fund proper immigration centres and employ staff to actually process claims for asylum much quicker .. thus reducing the need to place people in temporary accommodation for months and months at a time and at great cost to the tax payer, not to mention the traumatic experience these poor people have to go through. A system where asylum claims are dealt with quickly and legally would surely benefit everybody involved.
 
Maybe a simplistic view of things but …

The money being ploughed into this Rwanda debacle (not to mention the hours of work put in already wasted), would it not be more logical to use that money to fund proper immigration centres and employ staff to actually process claims for asylum much quicker .. thus reducing the need to place people in temporary accommodation for months and months at a time and at great cost to the tax payer, not to mention the traumatic experience these poor people have to go through. A system where asylum claims are dealt with quickly and legally would surely benefit everybody involved.
No no no no no no and no.

That's sensible. You don't enrage people and whip up xenophobia doing that.
 

It's as if William Travis, James Bowie and Davy Crockett fought one another at the Alamo, and not Santa Ana. If it's hopeless, you might as well get your innings in. It's not like there's anything to lose.

The notion that the Tories would fracture and Reform would more than double its present polling numbers seems more than a little delusional. Of course, I might have said the same thing about the Whigs in 1854, right before the passage of the Kansas-Nebraska Act. I don't see this one rising to quite that level, in the sense that I don't expect British citizens to engage in fights in the streets over immigration policy.

I will also admit to some skepticism that there's 20% general support for a populist, anti-immigration party with Farage as the power broker behind a figurehead.
 
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