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As a country we've backed ourselves into a societal cul-de-sac where the current situation is untenable, but every reasonable or workable solution is an anathema to the Government, and as Starmer is desperate not to appear too radical towards the great unwashed 'Middle England', Labour too (at least in public).

We need immigrant workers to prop up certain sectors and contribute towards the tax burden.
But immigrants ar unpopular with the Tories that want to fight culture wars, and immigrants arriving contribute towards the housing crisis.
We could be build more social housing, but that annoys the blue rinse brigade that want their house prices to skyrocket, and the private landlords. So bad for the Tories.
Best keep the immigrants out.
But Tories like immigrant workers as they drive wages down!
And so on...

What the Tory core really wants is a mass reconversion to organised religion and for the nation's women to "lie back and think of England" before popping out a dozen sprogs each, financially devastating every household and creating a future workforce/tax battery. This is why some Tories looking to make a name for themselves are guffing these sorts of farts out into the political winds - Miriam Cates recently was all over the "bring back families" bandwagon.

But they don't want to support families, they just want them to exist, like in the good old days. Miriam's grand plan to promote family life isn't to argue for a world in which people would want to actually raise a family, it's... get this, it's a good 'un - tax cuts!

Yep, according to Miriam we cut taxes now so that all the youngsters start "bonking for blighty" and in about 20-25 years we'll have a huge amount of workers starting out their careers to replace that money and finally start paying for public services for their exhausted parents.

It's the ultimate form of trickle-down economics, and this one involves bodily fluids.
 
And, the new changes to immigration policy is a sure fire policy to make worse the current situation in social care

Dependants of health workers will no longer be allowed entry to the UK.



Cloud Cuckoo Land springs to mind.






New rules means that if i move back to the U.K. with my family (which could likely happen for any number of reasons, including health) need to be walking into a 38k a year job.
Have no roots in London so is pretty unlikely that this would be possible for us (both skilled professionals as well)
Basically I could only move alone or not at all
The Labour Party is in broad agreement with the policy according to what I heard in the news today
 
I know this will seem a bit Brexit, but we really need to do something about the migration numbers.

750k in the last year, housing is already a major issue, not to mention the creaking NHS.

Just my view like.
Housing is an issue because we simply don't build enough. Fixing the planning system is where you should be directing your ire, not at people coming to work and study here who are desperately needed. I've said before, but if the birthrate magically doubled such the 750k new babies were created a year, we wouldn't be having this discussion. I wonder why?
 
Do you have a link to this mate?

Theres a lot of "heard it in the news" going around, without any basis in reality.

Not suggesting this is the case here at all.

You know?
I don't have a link, I saw it on the news yesterday. Sophy Ridge I think. I guess we can judge it by Labour's reaction to it in the media today
 
I'm sure there's a quip about russian money enabling soviet era britain, but it probably wouldn't be very amusing. Still, was it a brass that went with johnson to berlusconi's shag pad in italy with the former*-kgb agent (lebedev)?
 
Do you have a link to this mate?

Theres a lot of "heard it in the news" going around, without any basis in reality.

Not suggesting this is the case here at all.

You know?
The number is hearsay, goes away the emotion about immigration once people feel better about their own finances and lives.

Really Its all about Tory government setting political traps, of course there will be caveats to the headline announcement on immigration wage cap that all Tories wont want to talk about.

Hence why Labour are in broad agreement and not getting drawn into spat that will involve much of media announcing Labour are soft on immigration.
 
Housing is an issue because we simply don't build enough. Fixing the planning system is where you should be directing your ire, not at people coming to work and study here who are desperately needed. I've said before, but if the birthrate magically doubled such the 750k new babies were created a year, we wouldn't be having this discussion. I wonder why?
Its a win win investment and the underlying issue and root cause why housing in the UK is not fit for purpose. Not about having a home its somewhere to stuff cash investment into. Until that cultural changes in housing its more of the same.
 
Housing is an issue because we simply don't build enough. Fixing the planning system is where you should be directing your ire, not at people coming to work and study here who are desperately needed. I've said before, but if the birthrate magically doubled such the 750k new babies were created a year, we wouldn't be having this discussion. I wonder why?

I agree there is a massive housing crisis but where do you wish these houses to be built?

I do not want to see any more green belt land swallowed up by concrete.
 
Amazing how the government are pushing to look at all pensioner's bank accounts, yet they are unable to retrieve texts from Sunak's and others phones.

I suppose this law amendment rushed through last week wasn't possible whilst within the EU, but they now have the freedom to do so.

Lovely stuff.
 
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