Chewbacca
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Almost certainly a drug dealer in that neck of the woods
roydo
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The level of homelessness around the city centre is just getting worse and worse. Maybe it’s because I’m only there a few times a year that I can see increases but it is deplorable that in this day and age people are surviving like that.
Shame on every member of the government for allowing this to happen.
Shame on every member of the government for allowing this to happen.
Jib in lad
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Ian Duncan Smith.
Like A daily mail headline writer you Spotted the big story there pete.
peteblue
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Well someone had to.....
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
Excellent. Actually I happen to know a guy who uses the same NDR lettering on all his cars.......
I've mentioned it in a few other threads, but what is the answer? All politicians seem to have tried to date when jobs have been lost is to try and get the same jobs back, which seems unlikely, or to consign those who lost their jobs to a lifetime of welfare. What have 30-40 years of governments (and indeed wider society) both in the UK and most other developed countries done wrong? The situation seems to say that people, and therefore whole regions, cannot do different things, so if one livelihood goes then you're up the creek. That's a pretty depressing state of play.
tsubaki
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One way would be to do what some nations do (including the ERGs new favourite, Singapore) and look to provide things that the state can do cheaply (housing, transport etc). That might allow firms to lower wages whilst not driving millions into poverty /debt because they can’t pay living costs.
Are there any examples of governments doing that and an area being transformed long-term? Could be anywhere in the world. Genuinely interested.
tsubaki
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As a deliberate act of policy (ie: to cut the cost of living allowing wages to fall)? Not sure, though to mention Singapore again they have 82-85% of the population in social housing and three million journeys made their integrated (privately owned but fares are regulated) public transport system most days (the population is five million), and they seem to be doing ok.
I just think that is a better way of dealing with changes in employment practice, or certainly better than telling people how lazy they are, blaming migrants and offering them credit at upwards of 40% apr is.
I quite agree. It's a simplification obviously, but it seems like the Tory position to this has broadly been that change is inevitable, but you're on your own in terms of adapting to it, so we'll stick you on quasi-permanent welfare to keep the peace. The Labour position has been to rose-tint the (male) jobs down a pit or in a steel works (other jobs apply), and that these jobs have to be maintained at all costs.
No one has really taken the stance that change is inevitable, but that we (society) will do all we can to help people adapt to that change.
tsubaki
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TBH (and not to say Labour do this on a real level) there is a lot to say for protecting jobs in some industries; as we’ve seen with telecommunications infrastructure lately there are real dangers in allowing a sector to be dominated by one or a few countries (especially when that country actually protects and boosts its own industry). Steel is one of those, as is coal (especially if the alternative is worse), and shipbuilding definitely is. Viewing things only in terms of cost is daft.
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