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Starmer is caught between a rock and hard place though.

How does he reel areas like East Yorkshire, Humberside, Teeside etc back in, when they still 100% back Brexit and stopping the boats ?

He`s got two choices, either pander to them for their votes or just write their votes off, which has the potential to push everyday, disaffected folk into the arms of the far right.

It`s a very delicate one.
You stick to your principles and keep the message on track. Push and make people aware of real issues. Have a competent local and national communications team.
Always this push for the left to pander to the right and not the other way round. Is part of the reason the U.K. is spiralling into right wing shithole.
 
You stick to your principles and keep the message on track. Push and make people aware of real issues. Have a competent local and national communications team.
Always this push for the left to pander to the right and not the other way round. Is part of the reason the U.K. is spiralling into right wing shithole.
For a man of his background to not at least counter the lie that it's illegal to claim asylum, however you arrive, is especially grim. He should be defending the law, not pandering to ignorant lies.
 
For a man of his background to not at least counter the lie that it's illegal to claim asylum, however you arrive, is especially grim. He should be defending the law, not pandering to ignorant lies.
Exactly. And what do they think will happen further down the line? The ‘centre ground’ gets pushed further right and a government will come in making Johnson et al look like socialists.

Starmer is a spineless wet cloth.
 
Exactly. And what do they think will happen further down the line? The ‘centre ground’ gets pushed further right and a government will come in making Johnson et al look like socialists.

Starmer is a spineless wet cloth.

I’d be very interested to hear the views of our resident three eyed, free thinking, independent, neo pagan, pantheist, centrist on this ?
 
Raab has jumped. Is anyone really surprised that this government is seeing such complaints? Grounded in public proclamations of a 'blob' or 'anti-growth coalition' that inhibits their agendas or needs reform, it is not hard to see why the ministers (Priti Patel, Gavin Williamson and now Raab) act out so badly. Of course, this does not detract from the clear character flaws these monsters have.
His resignation letter is out of the playbook of all abusers, full of self pity victimhood and they made me do it, truly pathetic.
 
I'm actually amazed he resigned to be honest

I thought he'd hang on until they sacked him
He has obviously been promised something in the future if he fell on his sword to try and deflect criticism of the PM. He is a snivelling toe rag, his defence seems to be that he was found not guilty on 6 of the 8 counts so he is more innocent than guilty and that, even though a respected KC carried out 5 month enquiry it was the Civil Service who had an agenda to stymie the Tory government, he fails to recognise the record of his party which has loss numerous members because of their behaviour.
 
As my missus is a Yorkie and my old mate from the Wirral has lived there for a couple of decades, I`ve learnt to like the place.

It takes a while to get used to the bluntness and dourness of the people, but once you get used to them, you realise that they`ve actually got a pretty unique sense of humour ( dour ) and are decent people - stubborn, proud, but very loyal if they like you.

One thing I can`t get my head around though, is how tight they are lol
I lived in Yorkshire for years. Love the place but the people can be an odd bunch.
 
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