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Capitalism or Communism only one has worked the choice is very easy

You're right. Over time unfettered Capitalism has been shown up as an abject failure when it comes to benefiting populations, whilst Communism still works well in small communities where everybody know each other.

Unfortunately I believe that familiarity is a prerequisite for making it work, and so it cannot be applied as a system of Government for even the smallest nations.

So can we try something else entirely?
 
Didn’t the super wealthy at least used to build hospitals, public parks, libraries, and art galleries as their vanity project? These days they seem to want their own space programme, or to buy a social media platform so they can chat unadulterated bollocks.
I enjoyed reading about this guy, I didn't do the most in depth read just some highlights really, and overlooking some mildly dubious insider trading possibilities, he seems like a very wealthy almost self made chap who hadn't let his ego slay his conscience.

 
I enjoyed reading about this guy, I didn't do the most in depth read just some highlights really, and overlooking some mildly dubious insider trading possibilities, he seems like a very wealthy almost self made chap who hadn't let his ego slay his conscience.


Thanks for sharing that. Musk, Bezos, et al. could learn a thing or two from his example.
 

The 'tipped min wage'. Christ. They expect working class people who are financially exploited as is to pay the wages of the employees of millionaires/billionaires.

Its like a cynical messed up implementation of socialism that helps out the rich. But ask for a living wage and they will call you a socialist. Like the word is meant to be derogatory and an insult in the first place anyway.
 
I enjoyed reading about this guy, I didn't do the most in depth read just some highlights really, and overlooking some mildly dubious insider trading possibilities, he seems like a very wealthy almost self made chap who hadn't let his ego slay his conscience.

Like to through Robert Owen into the mix...

 


I disagree a fair bit with Monbiot but he starts off bang on the money here, that the idea of a social democracy is rare across human history compared to "might is right" (which often means wealthiest) and that everything is cyclical - a strong state for the masses following sorts of once-in-several-generation disasters like world war. He's probably also correct that bland centrism can't really stave off the threats of oligarch-based catastrophe forever, because history shows us that nothing ever has.

But identifiying (or in this case explaining) an obvious problem isn't the same as developing or discovering a solution for it, and the trouble is his offered idea of "mass mobilisation" doesn't happen without a cause or banner to rally around.
 
I disagree a fair bit with Monbiot but he starts off bang on the money here, that the idea of a social democracy is rare across human history compared to "might is right" (which often means wealthiest) and that everything is cyclical - a strong state for the masses following sorts of once-in-several-generation disasters like world war. He's probably also correct that bland centrism can't really stave off the threats of oligarch-based catastrophe forever, because history shows us that nothing ever has.

But identifiying (or in this case explaining) an obvious problem isn't the same as developing or discovering a solution for it, and the trouble is his offered idea of "mass mobilisation" doesn't happen without a cause or banner to rally around.
These two things are really very close to being the same thing.

War, revolution, famine, pestilence. Awful close to those four horsemen type mystical beings of change.

Every zeitgeist (I think that's the word) has it's early adopters and have a head start over those that then followed. The printed word, the ball and musket, medicinal advances, the jet engine, the information super highway.

Society catches up eventually, and it still is. What is left of society when it gets there is to be scene. History is littered with successful and powerful men, they all die one day, and then an angle for the big chair is found by the next devious bar-stud.
 
I enjoyed reading about this guy, I didn't do the most in depth read just some highlights really, and overlooking some mildly dubious insider trading possibilities, he seems like a very wealthy almost self made chap who hadn't let his ego slay his conscience.

He found his conscience after essentially destroying Johnstown, PA by flood

But hey, better late than never.
 
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