Current Affairs The " another shooting in America " thread

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You obviously have to take this sort of thing with a pinch of salt but wouldn’t surprise me at all


I know it’s not the point but the kid could just as easily have bought those other things off of “Private sellers” as well so I think the experiment is a bit flawed. It is ridiculous is they actually allow an unsupervised 13 year old anywhere near a gun show in the first place.
 
However, the data suggest no association between having an armed officer and deterrence of violence in these cases. An armed officer on the scene was the number one factor associated with increased casualties after the perpetrators’ use of assault rifles or submachine guns.

The well-documented weapons effect explains that the presence of a weapon increases aggression.6 Whenever firearms are present, there is room for error, and even highly trained officers get split-second decisions wrong. Prior research suggests that many school shooters are actively suicidal, intending to die in the act, so an armed officer may be an incentive rather than a deterrent.4 The majority of shooters who target schools are students of the school, calling into question the effectiveness of hardened security and active shooter drills. Instead, schools must invest in resources to prevent shootings before they occur.
 
You would think police especially would want more gun control to make their jobs and lives much safer too.
You would think so. How many examples do we have of police officers in the US shooting a suspect when they reach into a car, a glove compartment, adjusting their trousers etc etc. There are other issues at play in a lot of these situations but how many of these wouldn’t have happened if there wasn’t a fear that the person is reaching for a gun.

In the UK police don’t have the fear that the person they are stopping might be about to pull a gun.

I know it’s not the only issue with police violence in the US but I bet they would be a bit more at ease if they didn’t assume everyone was packing
 
You would think so. How many examples do we have of police officers in the US shooting a suspect when they reach into a car, a glove compartment, adjusting their trousers etc etc. There are other issues at play in a lot of these situations but how many of these wouldn’t have happened if there wasn’t a fear that the person is reaching for a gun.

In the UK police don’t have the fear that the person they are stopping might be about to pull a gun.

I know it’s not the only issue with police violence in the US but I bet they would be a bit more at ease if they didn’t assume everyone was packing
Exactly that
 
According to Trump, teachers in America are not only going to have to be adept at Maths and English or whatever but also be pretty handy with a gun.

I have never heard the like. He'll probably get in again, by the way.
 


As awful as this is to think about, it’s also the sort of thing that might actually affect a change in some people’s minds. Emmett Till’s mother showing his lynched body was a turning point for the Civil Rights movement, and American attitudes towards Vietnam began to shift once news networks started showing combat footage on the nightly news.
 
It is a disgraceful the cops waited to go in.

But all the raglan headlines is about them now and people aren't even thinking about banning guns anymore.
 
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