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Just a query, but how many US Posters here own a gun?
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Tbh that’s understandable now, but I’d be wearing body armour every single day as well as that.
We don’t but would say that even here in our deep blue California suburb about 20-30% of our friends/neighbors do - usually hunting or handdown from family.
I do. 2 shotguns and 2 rifles. Both rifles are bolt action. No high-capacity magazines possible (or wanted). All stored in a safe with a combination lock.
I had one. Wife didn't want one around house seen as we were going to have a kid so I got rid of it few years back. A lot of my friends both Democrats and Conservatives have guns, which is not that uncommon in San Diego seen as it's a big military area.
I live next door to a cop on one side and a marine on the other. Both like their guns.
As for the friends Some of them hunt, some of them have them in cases (meaningful piece like sidearm from military or grandfathers piece from war).
Most keep theirs locked up like responsible owners should.
I dont have a issue with guns for hunting or a sidearm piece just not the over the top rifles or those that can be converted.
The lack of laws and control is what's needed and banning certain types.
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What do you own them for? Safety measures etc? Genuinely curious by the way.
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Genuinely amazing to me, different cultures I guess. I'm 41 years old, and I can never, ever remember being in someone'e house, knowing any friends / family / work colleagues who lived in a city, who owned a gun. I have and do know friends / family who are farmers / live on lifestyle blocks who might own a gun, but never anything automatic, and they only keep guns for shooting rabbits / possums, the odd one might hunt wild pigs, etc.
The times I've seen millitary-style weapons carried overseas by police I've found it all a touch intimidating to be honest, but that's purely as it's a sight I normally only ever see on TV and in the movies.
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I think I would 100% carry a gun, I wouldn’t feel safe without body armour. And the thought of sending kids to school fills me with dread.
It really is a culture thing in the US. I am Irish would never have thought of purchasing one before I moved here. I got one as friends regularly went to the range so i decided to buy one. Thing is though it was easy for me to give up once my wife decided we shouldn't own one if we were having kids.
Also many urban and suburban living families here travel into the desert, mountains and woods to camp so they hunt also.
I once asked some of my friends why they had one and most couldn't really answer other to say they grow up with the idea that it's normal and becuase of that they get one.
But that's the non military friends. Those who are veterans and cops or who are/were both are drawn to them becuase of their careers. But in saying that a couple of buddies got rid of theirs once they left the service.
Took me several years to adjust - remember being gobsmacked when found out our far-left leaning friend had a veritable arsenal as my only exposure to guns in the UK had been a friend’s dad who as a farmer owned a shotgun to kill vermin.
Hunting, even for urban/suburban families, is so much more common as a pastime here.
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Live in NYC where they are effectively illegal for non-law enforcement. Never owned or fired one other than a .22 rifle which is just about a toy. Grew up in Nee England suburbs and although I’m sure some neighbors had them I never saw them.
Wife is from rural Pennsylvania. Gunshots can be heard as background noise throughout the day there.
Wife is from rural Pennsylvania. Gunshots can be heard as background noise throughout the day there.
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Since Liverpool’s own John Lennon was shot dead in New York, 1.15 million have been killed by guns there (that’s up to 2015...there’s been a good four years of killing since this piece was published).
www.rollingstone.com
My brother lives in Texas as I mentioned before...I’ve previously thought I’d be raging with anger if anything happened him. But then I remembered it’s his decision to live there. He’s swamped by guns. He knows the risks. One argument, one wrong turn, that could be it.
What is exasperating is how backward, and yet how advanced, the place is. When you see Africans dying of starvation in those adverts you know they are helpless. Yet when you see people being shot on a daily basis in the US, a country that put a man on the moon (granted with help from Von Braun’s rocket, Tom Bacon’s fuel cell, etc.), a country with endless ingenuity in science, technology, entertainment etc. Yet, they hark back a law made by a group of privileged, white, slave owning tyrants from over two centuries ago for guidance. As I said, had any Jefferson’s 600 plus black slaves, or the Native “savages”..
www.theguardian.com
..that he had removed from their homeland been armed, doing humanity a great service by sticking a bullet through his forehand would have quite possibly prevented the 200 plus years of bloodshed and misery since (the other tyrants were no better, but the father of scientific racism would be my pick).
The guns for all law originates from the English Bill of rights of 1689...but the English to their credit are blessed with sense and understand you have to change as society and circumstances change. The UK has roughly 50 deaths per year via guns, the US it’s over 33,000. With the UK populous being 5 times less that’s 250 to 33,000 for matching totals per population...less than 1% of the US. The childlike assertion that “video games”, “mental health” are the determining factors...the fact Trump said it is embarrassing not for him, but for the population he was saying it to. When you can say something as ludicrous as that (that it was scripted and not off the cuff makes it all the more obscene) it’s an indictment to the place it’s being said. It’s acceptable there.
Nothing will change until people change. A population where over 45% are young Earth creationists, in the year 2019, hardly a sign people are waking up. I won’t hold my breath on change happening anytime soon.
1.15 Million Americans Killed by Guns Since John Lennon
John Lennon was shot to death by Mark David Chapman 35 years ago Tuesday.
www.rollingstone.com
My brother lives in Texas as I mentioned before...I’ve previously thought I’d be raging with anger if anything happened him. But then I remembered it’s his decision to live there. He’s swamped by guns. He knows the risks. One argument, one wrong turn, that could be it.
What is exasperating is how backward, and yet how advanced, the place is. When you see Africans dying of starvation in those adverts you know they are helpless. Yet when you see people being shot on a daily basis in the US, a country that put a man on the moon (granted with help from Von Braun’s rocket, Tom Bacon’s fuel cell, etc.), a country with endless ingenuity in science, technology, entertainment etc. Yet, they hark back a law made by a group of privileged, white, slave owning tyrants from over two centuries ago for guidance. As I said, had any Jefferson’s 600 plus black slaves, or the Native “savages”..
Facebook labels declaration of independence as 'hate speech'
The website told a local newspaper they violated its community guidelines by posting the original document
..that he had removed from their homeland been armed, doing humanity a great service by sticking a bullet through his forehand would have quite possibly prevented the 200 plus years of bloodshed and misery since (the other tyrants were no better, but the father of scientific racism would be my pick).
The guns for all law originates from the English Bill of rights of 1689...but the English to their credit are blessed with sense and understand you have to change as society and circumstances change. The UK has roughly 50 deaths per year via guns, the US it’s over 33,000. With the UK populous being 5 times less that’s 250 to 33,000 for matching totals per population...less than 1% of the US. The childlike assertion that “video games”, “mental health” are the determining factors...the fact Trump said it is embarrassing not for him, but for the population he was saying it to. When you can say something as ludicrous as that (that it was scripted and not off the cuff makes it all the more obscene) it’s an indictment to the place it’s being said. It’s acceptable there.
Nothing will change until people change. A population where over 45% are young Earth creationists, in the year 2019, hardly a sign people are waking up. I won’t hold my breath on change happening anytime soon.
No worries. I have a .410 that is used for killing poisonous snakes at the ranch (thankfully not all that often) and a 12-guage for dove hunting. The .22 rifle is for plinking (target shooting) and I have my father's deer rifle - which I don't use often (only twice to kill a feral pig) since I'm not a deer hunter. It's something I keep as a memory of him.
None of the guns I own are much good for "safety measures". Neither are handguns, in my estimation. They are a bazillion times more likely to be used in a suicide or accidental killing of a family member than in defense of self. My suggestion to folks if they want a gun to scare away intruders is to have a pump-action shotgun under the bed. No need for ammunition. Any intruder who hears that thing racked will exit the premises.
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Don’t need one. I’ve already got a noose hanging in the basement.
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