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One thing about National Service. You learn about firearms, how they work, how to fire them and how dangerous they are. Above all, it ingrains a healthy respect for them. You learn not to mess around with them.
How could a guy who had already been arrested for threatening his ex-wife and child able to get his hands on a firearm so he could hold his brother in law’s family hostage? And why after the second threat to his office was his bail not revoked?
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article217263685.html
A judge arrested last week, accused of threatening the mother of his child with a rifle, shot and killed himself early Friday morning, ending a tense 10-hour standoff. At one point, police begged him to flicker the home’s lights to show that everyone was unharmed and to release a 13-year-old girl.
When it ended, federal administrative law judge Timothy Maher was dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound, police said. And the family members he held hostage inside the barricaded South Miami-Dade home — including the teenage girl — were unharmed. “They [police] were receiving messages via text, just saying,‘Help, we need help,’ basically,” said Miami-Dade Detective Christopher Thomas.
Though police had not publicly named or said how the survivors were related to the judge, a law enforcement source familiar with the investigation said the three hostages were the brother of Maher’s ex-wife, that man’s wife and their teenaged daughter. Maher, 51, had spent the past decade reviewing disability cases for the Social Security Administration office in downtown Miami.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article217263685.html
A judge arrested last week, accused of threatening the mother of his child with a rifle, shot and killed himself early Friday morning, ending a tense 10-hour standoff. At one point, police begged him to flicker the home’s lights to show that everyone was unharmed and to release a 13-year-old girl.
When it ended, federal administrative law judge Timothy Maher was dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound, police said. And the family members he held hostage inside the barricaded South Miami-Dade home — including the teenage girl — were unharmed. “They [police] were receiving messages via text, just saying,‘Help, we need help,’ basically,” said Miami-Dade Detective Christopher Thomas.
Though police had not publicly named or said how the survivors were related to the judge, a law enforcement source familiar with the investigation said the three hostages were the brother of Maher’s ex-wife, that man’s wife and their teenaged daughter. Maher, 51, had spent the past decade reviewing disability cases for the Social Security Administration office in downtown Miami.
I suspect Trump will want all gamers carrying weapons now. It’s truly beggars belief how some hold onto the second amendment right over the safety and security of their own people.
Quite a selfish and sad way that they look at life, it’s a much a case of “I’m alright jack, so you can get stuffed”
If one thing that the far left bring to the USA then I hope it’s control over weapons, maybe not in our generation but hopefully the tide will change over there, such a continuous sad loss of life over something that could be reduced instantaneously
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Quite a selfish and sad way that they look at life, it’s a much a case of “I’m alright jack, so you can get stuffed”
If one thing that the far left bring to the USA then I hope it’s control over weapons, maybe not in our generation but hopefully the tide will change over there, such a continuous sad loss of life over something that could be reduced instantaneously
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For all the jibes regarding Americans we may joke about I think we should acknowledge the amazing courage and restraint that the majority of ordinary citizens don't carry weapons all the time. Just think about going out each morning knowing how easy it is to get a gun and basically hoping that fate doesn't put you in the same place as a disgruntled man or woman?
What you have put there is technically true because surely the gun loving right will say that everyone should carry guns to protect themselves. Welcome to the wild west 2018 style. It's just crazy and I don't know what kind of event that could happen to start changing minds.
It was Sandyhook...or should have been. If slaughtering 6-7 year olds didn't change things nothing will.
The exception might be if guns become so prolific that legislators and their families are no longer safe.
Not even then if this from Steve Scalise is any guide.
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/353714-scalise-shooting-fortified-view-on-gun-rights
House Majority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.) says that getting shot at the GOP baseball practice over the summer — and nearly losing his life as a result — has strengthened his views against gun control.
Fox News’s Martha MacCallum asked Scalise in an interview to be aired later Tuesday if his experience and the deadly mass shooting in Las Vegas on Sunday night have changed his views about the Constitution’s Second Amendment.
“I think it’s fortified it,” Scalise said.
dholliday
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I think it was after Sandy Hook where Obama said before a watching world that maybe USA aren't the greatest country in the world after all, as they are unable or unwilling to solve a problem which is killing children, a problem other civilised countries don't have.
I found that an amazing thing to admit, as USA do have this culty reverence for their own nation where Presidents are obliged to keep saying they're the best. It was a brave mature thing for Obama to say. I have problems with his administration (drones, Snowden etc) but this man had such a fine way with words...what an incredible contrast to the man now holding office. They couldn't be more further apart.
dholliday
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i'm not a conspiracy nut, but it does leave the question open: why did the camera cut out at precisely that moment?
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That was the one that I always go back to, if not that then what? However I have a deep fear that at some point we may see something worse as the people that do these kind of things to make a mark on the world have so many large scale acts of evil to even get into any top 20 after what has happened recently.
I hope I am wrong. I'm sick of my heart sinking to the floor.
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If you need any evidence that America has some backward thinking there it is right there. Unbelievable.
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