Yes, but they are just immature irrational actors who's opinion doesn't count and who's brains aren't developed even though they saw their peers get murdered, so really they are pawns of the left...blah blah blah.
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Yes, but they are just immature irrational actors who's opinion doesn't count and who's brains aren't developed even though they saw their peers get murdered, so really they are pawns of the left...blah blah blah.
They are damned if they do and damned if they don't. I am following a bunch of them on Twitter since Sarah sent that tweet to Trump.
Some guy sent Sarah a tweet earlier telling her that if they are expected to be taken seriously they need to stop taking selfies with their tongue stuck out. Like ffs...they are kids at the end of the day.
If they are too serious and polished they are left wing puppets...if they screw around and take silly pictures they won't be taken seriously.
Brave kids getting it from all sides.
I'll modify my stance - I think he is attempting to discredit the notion (implied or explicit) that these teens should be looked to for guidance/wisdom/moral authority/expertise on this policy position. And I think it's a very different, and far more coherent, approach than how D'Souza has reacted.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...court-rules-n724106?__twitter_impression=true
ANNAPOLIS, Md. — Maryland's ban on 45 kinds of assault weapons and its 10-round limit on gun magazines were upheld Tuesday by a federal appeals court in a decision that met with a strongly worded dissent. In a 10-4 ruling, the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond, Virginia, said the guns banned under Maryland's law aren't protected by the Second Amendment.
"Put simply, we have no power to extend Second Amendment protections to weapons of war," Judge Robert King wrote for the court, adding that the Supreme Court's decision in District of Columbia v. Heller explicitly excluded such coverage. Maryland Attorney General Brian Frosh, who led the push for the law in 2013 as a state senator, said it's "unthinkable that these weapons of war, weapons that caused the carnage in Newtown and in other communities across the country, would be protected by the Second Amendment."
ANNAPOLIS, Md. — Maryland's ban on 45 kinds of assault weapons and its 10-round limit on gun magazines were upheld Tuesday by a federal appeals court in a decision that met with a strongly worded dissent. In a 10-4 ruling, the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond, Virginia, said the guns banned under Maryland's law aren't protected by the Second Amendment.
"Put simply, we have no power to extend Second Amendment protections to weapons of war," Judge Robert King wrote for the court, adding that the Supreme Court's decision in District of Columbia v. Heller explicitly excluded such coverage. Maryland Attorney General Brian Frosh, who led the push for the law in 2013 as a state senator, said it's "unthinkable that these weapons of war, weapons that caused the carnage in Newtown and in other communities across the country, would be protected by the Second Amendment."
I read the scathing dissenting judge's statement. He's not very happy.
I think they could have worded the ruling better to be fair. Calling an AR-15 'like' a 'weapon of war' while very true does leave a lot to be contested. Lot's of weapons are 'like weapons of war'.
Kurt Eichenwald wrote a good piece on the 2nd Amendment in Vanity Fair. The grammar of the 2A is a nightmare. Scalia definitely took liberties in his interpretation.
It's long...but a good read.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/pol...econd-amendment/amp?__twitter_impression=true
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But it shouldn’t be difficult for those against guns to supplant the financial support. The problem is these hundreds of millions of guns, how many people hold them, and that they are all voters........
This is a strange argument to be having. Regardless of how you feel on the necessity of gun control, it's surely clear as day to anyone why it's been so difficult to enact it despite an apparent groundswell of support over the years?
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And calling them that is his attempt to discredit them whilst trying to looking more considerate that Desouza. It's not even subtle ffs. He also claimed they were being 'paraded' which obviously implies that they either flat out don't want to be there or at the very least being coerced by evil agenda driven 'leftists'. Either way it allows him (and others on the right) to ignore the survivors' views simply because he finds it unpalatable.
Yikes. Will be interested to see how this plays out.
Actual weapons of war (for the US) - Beretta, Sig Sauer, HK, Glock and various 1911 handguns, Mossberg/Benelli/Remington shotguns, Remington and Barrett rifles...
Not weapons of war: the AR-15 (armalite or otherwise).
He's not mocking them, ridiculing them, etc. He's discrediting the notion they should necessarily be looked to for good answers. Deep down, you're fully aware that the media would not be giving this much airtime to these students if they were advocating for more mental health awareness. That's what Ben is targeting, and I agree with him.
As for listening to the students, why wouldn't we?
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Was the ar-15 developed solely as 'home defence'?
Wow, you don't think armalites are weapons of war??
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But who should we look to for guidance? Nobody is looking to them for guidance, if that's his argument he's attacking straw men. No, the fact is Ben is a pseud and he can't bear teenagers calling for gun control in an eloquent and dignified way (genuinely think this has hurt him, he obviously fancies himself as a bit of a skilled debater with a mastery of the language etc...realising he's actually fairly mediocre and he just gets airtime for being bombastic has hurt his core, obviously that's crude pop-psychology but nevertheless think its true) so has tried to silence them with shame, characterising them as silly little children who couldn't possibly know anything about the big, bad world. He decries their 'lack of expertise'. This is problematic for Ben as it implies 'expertise' is necessary, how much expertise? Who decides the level of expertise? As he holds the opposite view he must believe he holds some expertise as otherwise his point of view could be dismissed as easily as he dismissed the survivors. So what qualifies Ben to comment on the issue? What's his expertise in this field?
He's pretending he's attacking the media for 'parading' them but really he's just having difficulty defending his pro gun stance so is trying to discredit the anti-gun stance in the only way he knows how, with snidey digs.
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looked it up meself
The Colt AR-15 is a lightweight, 5.56×45mm, magazine-fed, gas-operated semi-automatic rifle. It was designed to be manufactured with the extensive use of aluminum alloys and synthetic materials. It is a semi-automatic version of the United States military M16 rifle. Colt's Manufacturing Company currently uses the AR-15 trademark for its line of semi-automatic AR-15 rifles that are marketed to civilian and law-enforcement customers.
sound a bit 'war-y' to me
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