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I’d like to see this added to the mix of things that the CDC would investigate links to, iirc Jake Tapper has said that he will never name a mass shooter on air for this reason.
http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2016/08/media-contagion.aspx
DENVER — People who commit mass shootings in America tend to share three traits: rampant depression, social isolation and pathological narcissism, according to a paper presented at the American Psychological Association’s annual convention that calls on the media to deny such shooters the fame they seek. “Mass shootings are on the rise and so is media coverage of them,” said Jennifer B. Johnston, PhD, of Western New Mexico University. “At this point, can we determine which came first? Is the relationship merely unidirectional: More shootings lead to more coverage? Or is it possible that more coverage leads to more shootings?”

Johnston and her coauthor, Andrew Joy, BS, also of Western New Mexico University, reviewed data on mass shootings amassed by media outlets, the FBI and advocacy organizations, as well as scholarly articles, to conclude that “media contagion” is largely responsible for the increase in these often deadly outbursts. They defined mass shootings as either attempts to kill multiple people who are not relatives or those resulting in injuries or fatalities in public places
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The demographic profile of mass shooters is fairly consistent, she said. Most are white, ostensibly heterosexual males, largely between the ages of 20 and 50. They tend to see themselves as “victims of injustice,” and share a belief that they have been cheated out of their rightful dominant place as white, middle-class males. “Unfortunately, we find that a cross-cutting trait among many profiles of mass shooters is desire for fame,” she said. This quest for fame among mass shooters skyrocketed since the mid-1990s “in correspondence to the emergence of widespread 24-hour news coverage on cable news programs, and the rise of the internet during the same period.”

She cited several media contagion models, most notably one proposed by Towers et al. (2015), which found the rate of mass shootings has escalated to an average of one every 12.5 days, and one school shooting on average every 31.6 days, compared to a pre-2000 level of about three events per year. “A possibility is that news of shooting is spread through social media in addition to mass media,” she said.

“If the mass media and social media enthusiasts make a pact to no longer share, reproduce or retweet the names, faces, detailed histories or long-winded statements of killers, we could see a dramatic reduction in mass shootings in one to two years,” she said. “Even conservatively, if the calculations of contagion modelers are correct, we should see at least a one-third reduction in shootings if the contagion is removed.”
 
Here’s a strange stat for the firearms industry. From 1986 until the year Obama came to power, the USA manufactured about 3.5Million weapons a year on average, with the highest peak in 93 and 94 of about 5Million before reducing Back to an average of about 3.5Million in the years up to 2008. Enter Obama and the numbers went through the roof, smashing through the 5Million mark in his first year, and climbing year on year before hitting 11Million in 2013, with an average of his years in office of about 7.5Million. So if you are all correct and it’s the number of guns that’s the issue then you can thank Obama for more than doubling the yearly manufactured output........
 
Here’s a strange stat for the firearms industry. From 1986 until the year Obama came to power, the USA manufactured about 3.5Million weapons a year on average, with the highest peak in 93 and 94 of about 5Million before reducing Back to an average of about 3.5Million in the years up to 2008. Enter Obama and the numbers went through the roof, smashing through the 5Million mark in his first year, and climbing year on year before hitting 11Million in 2013, with an average of his years in office of between 7.5Million. So if you are all correct and it’s the number of guns that’s the issue then you can thank Obama for more than doubling the yearly manufactured output........

Oh look another vein attempt to take a pop at Obama and blame him for something. Come on now.
 
I’d like to see this added to the mix of things that the CDC would investigate links to, iirc Jake Tapper has said that he will never name a mass shooter on air for this reason.
http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2016/08/media-contagion.aspx
DENVER — People who commit mass shootings in America tend to share three traits: rampant depression, social isolation and pathological narcissism, according to a paper presented at the American Psychological Association’s annual convention that calls on the media to deny such shooters the fame they seek. “Mass shootings are on the rise and so is media coverage of them,” said Jennifer B. Johnston, PhD, of Western New Mexico University. “At this point, can we determine which came first? Is the relationship merely unidirectional: More shootings lead to more coverage? Or is it possible that more coverage leads to more shootings?”

Johnston and her coauthor, Andrew Joy, BS, also of Western New Mexico University, reviewed data on mass shootings amassed by media outlets, the FBI and advocacy organizations, as well as scholarly articles, to conclude that “media contagion” is largely responsible for the increase in these often deadly outbursts. They defined mass shootings as either attempts to kill multiple people who are not relatives or those resulting in injuries or fatalities in public places
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The demographic profile of mass shooters is fairly consistent, she said. Most are white, ostensibly heterosexual males, largely between the ages of 20 and 50. They tend to see themselves as “victims of injustice,” and share a belief that they have been cheated out of their rightful dominant place as white, middle-class males. “Unfortunately, we find that a cross-cutting trait among many profiles of mass shooters is desire for fame,” she said. This quest for fame among mass shooters skyrocketed since the mid-1990s “in correspondence to the emergence of widespread 24-hour news coverage on cable news programs, and the rise of the internet during the same period.”

She cited several media contagion models, most notably one proposed by Towers et al. (2015), which found the rate of mass shootings has escalated to an average of one every 12.5 days, and one school shooting on average every 31.6 days, compared to a pre-2000 level of about three events per year. “A possibility is that news of shooting is spread through social media in addition to mass media,” she said.

“If the mass media and social media enthusiasts make a pact to no longer share, reproduce or retweet the names, faces, detailed histories or long-winded statements of killers, we could see a dramatic reduction in mass shootings in one to two years,” she said. “Even conservatively, if the calculations of contagion modelers are correct, we should see at least a one-third reduction in shootings if the contagion is removed.”

Interesting piece. It’s a bit like the old cowboy days of gaining a reputation for shooting a gunslinger in the back or whatever......if no one published it they probably wouldn’t bother...
 
I’d like to see this added to the mix of things that the CDC would investigate links to, iirc Jake Tapper has said that he will never name a mass shooter on air for this reason.
http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2016/08/media-contagion.aspx
DENVER — People who commit mass shootings in America tend to share three traits: rampant depression, social isolation and pathological narcissism, according to a paper presented at the American Psychological Association’s annual convention that calls on the media to deny such shooters the fame they seek. “Mass shootings are on the rise and so is media coverage of them,” said Jennifer B. Johnston, PhD, of Western New Mexico University. “At this point, can we determine which came first? Is the relationship merely unidirectional: More shootings lead to more coverage? Or is it possible that more coverage leads to more shootings?”

Johnston and her coauthor, Andrew Joy, BS, also of Western New Mexico University, reviewed data on mass shootings amassed by media outlets, the FBI and advocacy organizations, as well as scholarly articles, to conclude that “media contagion” is largely responsible for the increase in these often deadly outbursts. They defined mass shootings as either attempts to kill multiple people who are not relatives or those resulting in injuries or fatalities in public places
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The demographic profile of mass shooters is fairly consistent, she said. Most are white, ostensibly heterosexual males, largely between the ages of 20 and 50. They tend to see themselves as “victims of injustice,” and share a belief that they have been cheated out of their rightful dominant place as white, middle-class males. “Unfortunately, we find that a cross-cutting trait among many profiles of mass shooters is desire for fame,” she said. This quest for fame among mass shooters skyrocketed since the mid-1990s “in correspondence to the emergence of widespread 24-hour news coverage on cable news programs, and the rise of the internet during the same period.”

She cited several media contagion models, most notably one proposed by Towers et al. (2015), which found the rate of mass shootings has escalated to an average of one every 12.5 days, and one school shooting on average every 31.6 days, compared to a pre-2000 level of about three events per year. “A possibility is that news of shooting is spread through social media in addition to mass media,” she said.

“If the mass media and social media enthusiasts make a pact to no longer share, reproduce or retweet the names, faces, detailed histories or long-winded statements of killers, we could see a dramatic reduction in mass shootings in one to two years,” she said. “Even conservatively, if the calculations of contagion modelers are correct, we should see at least a one-third reduction in shootings if the contagion is removed.”


That's definitely a good idea imo.
 
These are just the facts.....and I think you meant vain, but I could be wrong......

Skewed facts Pete. It's not like he has any control over the sale of guns nor the production of them does it?

They did try albeit it not hard enough when they controlled things to make changes.

Not forgetting the Republicans blocking him at every turn when the took over the control of congress.

It has nothing to do with his administration. It had everything to do with them hating him and fearing the left would take their guns.

But when the right heard that the democrats wanted to make gun laws and implement checks it increased sales of guns as they feared if they didn't buy them they may lose them etc..

Oh and every mass shooting that occurred during his reign seem to peak peoples need for more guns. Again because they feared his administration would take them away.
 
Let’s hope this takes off.....

US gun owners have been praised for destroying their military-style assault rifles in the wake of the Florida school massacre.
Scott Pappalardo posted a video of himself cutting up his AR-15 rifle - similar to the one used by Florida gunman Nikolas Cruz - which has been viewed more than 15 million times on Facebook.
Using the hashtag #OneLess, Mr Pappalardo said he wanted to ensure the weapon "will never be able to take a life" as he sawed off the barrel of the gun.
It comes a week after the Valentine's Day mass shooting at a high school in Parkland which left 17 people dead and prompted survivors to call for stricter gun controls.
In his video, Mr Pappalardo said he was a "firm believer" in the right to bear arms - which he had tattooed on his arm - but he did not believe civilians should possess weapons that can cause "so much death and destruction".
 
Skewed facts Pete. It's not like he has any control over the sale of guns nor the production of them does it?

They did try albeit it not hard enough when they controlled things to make changes.

Not forgetting the Republicans blocking him at every turn when the took over the control of congress.

It has nothing to do with his administration. It had everything to do with them hating him and fearing the left would take their guns.

But when the right heard that the democrats wanted to make gun laws and implement checks it increased sales of guns as they feared if they didn't buy them they may lose them etc..

Oh and every mass shooting that occurred during his reign seem to peak peoples need for more guns. Again because they feared his administration would take them away.

They are just facts and not ‘skewed’. He could have taxed the manufacturers, he could have taxed their suppliers, he could have taxed at the point of sale, he could have limited via a myriad of ways the production of the raw materials for making bullets. It’s just a fact that gun manufacturing more than doubled on his shift, having been pretty steady under republicans and other democrats before him. ....
 
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A load of yokels bought guns because they thought they were being taken over by a Kenyan Muslim King, it's not a surprise.
Stockpiling also happened after 9/11 and for Y2K as well but generally people (unless you’re @peteblue) believe that Democrats are far more likely to implement some gun control measures or bans. I’d guess there was a spike in bump stock sales after Vegas though and will be an increase in AR15s after Parkland.
https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/13/opinions/gun-sales-mass-shootings-opinion-levine-mcknight/index.html
 
Stockpiling also happened after 9/11 and for Y2K as well but generally people (unless you’re @peteblue) believe that Democrats are far more likely to implement some gun control measures or bans. I’d guess there was a spike in bump stock sales after Vegas though and will be an increase in AR15s after Parkland.
https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/13/opinions/gun-sales-mass-shootings-opinion-levine-mcknight/index.html

There will always be movement of purchases either up or down after certain events. I do accept that Democrats are more likely to implement gun control rather than Republicans, they are just inept at doing it and making excuses for their failure just allows the carnage to continue......
 
Here’s a strange stat for the firearms industry. From 1986 until the year Obama came to power, the USA manufactured about 3.5Million weapons a year on average, with the highest peak in 93 and 94 of about 5Million before reducing Back to an average of about 3.5Million in the years up to 2008. Enter Obama and the numbers went through the roof, smashing through the 5Million mark in his first year, and climbing year on year before hitting 11Million in 2013, with an average of his years in office of about 7.5Million. So if you are all correct and it’s the number of guns that’s the issue then you can thank Obama for more than doubling the yearly manufactured output........

You got it backwards. Every time the Dems are in power going back to about the late 80s, the sale of guns go up. This is because Dems want to put better control on gun-availability, so when Obama was elected office, the paranoid narrative is that he will sign legislation to reduce gun availability (which, of course, the Republicans block every time) and thus sales go way up. This is the same reason that gun sales are way way down since Trump and why Remington arms just went out of business: gun owners know Trump and the Republicans won't do jack-sh_t to limit gun availability.

It is the fear of gun control legislation that drives up the sale of guns.
 
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