I didn't. I agreed and tried to move on.
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This again.
I'm not the one that has just said something explicitly racist.
You should just apologize and even in jest agree racism has no place here.
I am your opponent.
I'm for a realistic discussion about gun control that centers on actual knowledge of firearms, actual knowledge of firearm laws, and actual statistics about what would or wouldn't make a significant difference.
You are not for those things. You're for emotional banter in lieu of those things.
Obviously you weren't done because you continued haha!!
You started out by claiming all attacks by ISIS inspired attackers were stopped by the FBI and finished kind of admitting that in reality that's not true because we just simply don't have any stats to prove or disprove the very point and there were two attacks that were ISIS inspired in which they were successful.
I agree with you in the sense that we will never know how many they stop as they don't publish that. But that does not mean you were accurate from the off.
Says the guy banned from two threads for being afraid of white people being a minority in their country and who was having a pop at immigrants with different skin colours haha!!
Yea but let's not go there. It was a bad joke. Let's just leave it at that.
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Excuse my ignorance here - but isn't the answer simply to ban hunting and hence ban guns full stop?
As a UK resident I cannot even begin to imagine what possible 'sport' involves taking a semi automatic weapon to a defenceless animal?!
Remove guns from private ownership - maybe save for controlled 'sporting areas' where gun enthusiasts could go, check-in, use their weapons to their hearts content, leave them there and check-out.
The self-defence argument holds for about 2 minutes until you see the stats on mis-use.
And don't give me that "The sacred American constitution" argument because so much has happened in the intervening few hundred years to render it nonsensical to harp back to a spit and sawdust era.
Hmmm. I see. Starting to like you a bit now.
I apologise for being mean about honkies
No, no you are implying i am a racist. So please explain. Or apologise and take it back. Simple as that
I'm not implying you have blood on your hands. But you are repeating an old stall-tactic chestnut from the NRA: gun legislation is complex, there are lots of moving parts, and mental health and stuff, blah blah blah...so really nothing can be done.
But obviously something can be done. But there is literally no will on the part of the NRA and the politicians whose pockets they line to do so.
Its true that the left weaponized compassion.
They have no desire for debate (look at the senate immigration debate they themselves called for).
Debate would take that weapon away. You either agree with them or you are evil.
roydo
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While I probably disagree with everything you advocate, yes, the answer is a complete ban on gun ownership.
But, that's an answer America won't accept. America is willing to accept collateral deaths in return for liberty. Call that what you will, but it's the truth.
Personally, I am increasingly troubled by these mass murders, and the amount of guns these nuts have access to. I am likely willing to compromise to some degree, on a solution that protects gun rights for most citizens but makes a significant impact on gun crime. But, I have trouble identifying what that might look like. I think most Americans probably fall into my category.
Out of curiousity, you've brought up this bolded statement above twice now...why would someone need to be intimate with firearms to have an opinion on gun control laws? All guns, no matter how familiar you are with them, can send out a high-velocity projectile that is lethal or injurious. Are you suggesting one needs to know how to field strip a 1911 in the dark in order to voice an opinion on this issue?
I'm not repeating anything. I'm not a member of the NRA. My views are my own. The "you're regurgitating" stuff is true of many conservatives and many liberals on many issues. However, it is not true of me with regard to firearms issues.
I'm not saying nothing can be done. A ban and confiscation could theoretically take place, and if that happened, gun deaths would decrease. America has no appetite for that. In other words, it's a possible solution to the problem. It's politically unrealistic and I oppose it, but it's a potential solution.
Magazine restrictions are a a feel-good measure that won't make a difference. That's the contrast I'm point out.
If America wants to solve this problem on the gun side, let's talk about what the real solutions look like. Then people in favor of them can sell their case, and those opposed can sell theirs. But the pandering and ignorance doesn't do anything to move toward a solution. It just allows some people to look busy in the midst of tragedy.
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