Current Affairs The 2020 United States Presidential Election

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Farage spouts [Poor language removed] again.
 
"Nah lad, I know you and your ilk breaking in to the Capital building and destroying property and putting both chambers of the legislative was all a prank. Good one bro. I'll let it slide!"

I don't get why people think there are any olive trees left. These people could be drowning see a man in a BLM shirt holding a branch out and would rather die than take it.
Just for the broader Republican voter. If there's a chance to gain good kudos from a simple stunt. As to say look trump has lead you down this garden path and it's not right. We pardon you.
 
Trumps advisors and minions all distancing themselves from him, cheeky gets pushed all the ignorance and racist buttons to get elected, now the true face of trump supporters have shown themselves they dont want the ignorant and racist tag themselves, jail the lot of them.
 
The contrast of how the police dealt with peaceful BLM protest this summer it is very different on how they acted yesterday against these rioters. These people need to be charged otherwise we are giving a free pass for this type of insurrections to happen again in future elections.

Great segment by NPR. Worth hearing it.


You’re probably right in general Sass, but I was watching CNN last night when Cuomo (who I generally find obnoxious), was asking one of the CNN field reporters who was on the ground yesterday and during BLM to confirm exactly that, and she basically said the police response was similar and that she saw tear gassed and bloodied rioters yesterday in the same fashion as elsewhere. The main difference she said she saw was that the people yesterday couldn’t believe the cops would do that to them. I’ll have to listen to your NPR link when I have some free time later today.

For me right now the unbelievable thing was how unprepared police were for something entirely predictable.
 
You’re probably right in general Sass, but I was watching CNN last night when Cuomo (who I generally find obnoxious), was asking one of the CNN field reporters who was on the ground yesterday and during BLM to confirm exactly that, and she basically said the police response was similar and that she saw tear gassed and bloodied rioters yesterday in the same fashion as elsewhere. The main difference she said she saw was that the people yesterday couldn’t believe the cops would do that to them. I’ll have to listen to your NPR link when I have some free time later today.

For me right now the unbelievable thing was how unprepared police were for something entirely predictable.
The difference being that one group was mounting an at times armed attack on the seat of American government, the other..... wasn’t.
 
The difference being that one group was mounting an at times armed attack on the seat of American government, the other..... wasn’t.
Sure. So if you’re saying an equivalent response wasn’t enough, then I agree. Should’ve been immediate military response yesterday. A proportionate response to such disproportionate action still isn’t ok.

I was just pointing out that the idea of “contrast” may not have been as big as folks are currently thinking, based on what the CNN reporter shared.
 
From what i know, and I don't claim to know a lot about the DC police, is they're not really like a real city police force. DC Metro and Virginia state troopers are, and they seem to have did their job last night in the city itself.

The capitol police absolutely were compromised. Somewhere on this great internet there are photos of CP officers wearing 6MWE shirts. Which stands for 6 million wasn't enough.

The Capitol Police needs to be stood down and temporarily replaced by State Troopers from neighboring states until it can be fully restaffed. You can't have cops wearing pro holocaust shirts on the job.
 
Sure. So if you’re saying an equivalent response wasn’t enough, then I agree. Should’ve been immediate military response yesterday. A proportionate response to such disproportionate action still isn’t ok.

I was just pointing out that the idea of “contrast” may not have been as big as folks are currently thinking, based on what the CNN reporter shared.

Yeah I get what you’re saying, but I think the contrast is huge.

If BLM protestors had staged an armed incursion into the Capitol there would have been scores of them dead.

They also wouldn’t have been able to stroll out afterwards, and the police wouldn’t have been taking selfies with them
 
Yeah I get what you’re saying, but I think the contrast is huge.

If BLM protestors had staged an armed incursion into the Capitol there would have been scores of them dead.

They also wouldn’t have been able to stroll out afterwards, and the police wouldn’t have been taking selfies with them
Probably true. That is a different point though. Speculating on what would’ve likely happened had it been a different group, and comparing two things that did actually happen is a different conversation altogether. I’m not saying you’re wrong about that.

I am pretty surprised only one person was shot yesterday.
 
You’re probably right in general Sass, but I was watching CNN last night when Cuomo (who I generally find obnoxious), was asking one of the CNN field reporters who was on the ground yesterday and during BLM to confirm exactly that, and she basically said the police response was similar and that she saw tear gassed and bloodied rioters yesterday in the same fashion as elsewhere. The main difference she said she saw was that the people yesterday couldn’t believe the cops would do that to them. I’ll have to listen to your NPR link when I have some free time later today.

For me right now the unbelievable thing was how unprepared police were for something entirely predictable.

A report I saw was talking about the very different response between Capitol police and DC police.
DC police got after folks later in the day outside of the capitol area.
 
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