Current Affairs The 2020 United States Presidential Election

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Kenshin said:
Won't watch it personally but reading about it and gauging opinions from America ...

1. Both candidates were poor
2. Biden outright lied on things
3. The moderator was bias
4. Trump stuff I'm sure you are all saying already
5. Real concern that this is the best 2 options as both appear incompetent as potential presidents
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Whose opinions?

You didn't watch it and and chose to sum it up based on reviews from the web.

Not sure Wallace was biased at all. The only ones saying that funnily enough are the people that employ him and other right wing sources.

Biden outright lied on "things"? Care to elaborate what things and where you sourced that.

Both of them lied but fact checkers determined Trump lied alot and Biden either was misleading, changed his stance slightly and lied on one other topic.

These were impartial sources. If you go with right wing sources or anti Biden sources they will tell you otherwise.

Not defending Biden but the idea that he lied all the way through is very disingenuous.
 
SteveSC said:
Whose opinions?

You didn't watch it and and chose to sum it up based on reviews from the web.

Not sure Wallace was biased at all. The only ones saying that funnily enough are the people that employ him and other right wing sources.

Biden outright lied on "things"? Care to elaborate what things and where you sourced that.

Both of them lied but fact checkers determined Trump lied alot and Biden either was misleading, changed his stance slightly and lied on one other topic.

These were impartial sources. If you go with right wing sources or anti Biden sources they will tell you otherwise.

Not defending Biden but the idea that he lied all the way through is very disingenuous.
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The thing is mate, by arguing against what I posted, you are also just using your opinion which kinda doesn't do a right/wrong scenario.

I read up on a few news sites over my coffee and an American based group called anomoly, very unbias individual who speaks about all aspects of American issues . The opinions came from scanning the fair few thousand replies , obviously not reading every single one but you notice similar posts being made.

Didnt say he lied all the way through, just lied which again came from American perspectives.

I'm not American and I can't vote so no point in me being heavily invested in the debate mate. Just sharing an outside perspective which to be fair was unbiased anyway!
 
Kenshin said:
The thing is mate, by arguing against what I posted, you are also just using your opinion which kinda doesn't do a right/wrong scenario.

I read up on a few news sites over my coffee and an American based group called anomoly, very unbias individual who speaks about all aspects of American issues . The opinions came from scanning the fair few thousand replies , obviously not reading every single one but you notice similar posts being made.

Didnt say he lied all the way through, just lied which again came from American perspectives.

I'm not American and I can't vote so no point in me being heavily invested in the debate mate. Just sharing an outside perspective which to be fair was unbiased anyway!
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What an oddly defensive post.

I'm not arguing. I was asking where you got your information from seen as you said you didn't see any of it.

You posted an opinion based on opinions with no sources. I just wondered seen as I watched it and live here and read various news sources from here where you got your information from.

Why post if you cannot accept rebutal or questions especially when you are seemingly winging it based on a few articles you read over coffee that seemingly sum up the entire countries opinions. Your words.

Finally you didn't even share an outside perspective. You put into bullet points others opinions based on articles you read. Thats not your perspective now is it.
 
SteveSC said:
Whose opinions?

You didn't watch it and and chose to sum it up based on reviews from the web.

Not sure Wallace was biased at all. The only ones saying that funnily enough are the people that employ him and other right wing sources.

Biden outright lied on "things"? Care to elaborate what things and where you sourced that.

Both of them lied but fact checkers determined Trump lied alot and Biden either was misleading, changed his stance slightly and lied on one other topic.

These were impartial sources. If you go with right wing sources or anti Biden sources they will tell you otherwise.

Not defending Biden but the idea that he lied all the way through is very disingenuous.
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From a Proud Boys reddit thread.
 
I might watch clips of it later but you could tell it was going to be a car crash before it started.

Trump wants its to be one, thats his strategy to try and put people off from voting.
 
Moomin said:
I might watch clips of it later but you could tell it was going to be a car crash before it started.

Trump wants its to be one, thats his strategy to try and put people off from voting.
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the mod should be able to mute the mic if he/Biden talks over, it was a charade
 
Prevenger17 said:
After seeing some of the "highlights", anyone that can look at Trump and think "that guy should be president" deserves all the derision they get. An absolute circus clown of godzilla proportions
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The thing is he has so many of his supporters not trusting the mainstream media I'd be surprised if he even lost 1% of votes because of these debates.

The cult that he has made, or has been made for him, is incredible.
 
Prevenger17 said:
After seeing some of the "highlights", anyone that can look at Trump and think "that guy should be president" deserves all the derision they get. An absolute circus clown of godzilla proportions
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The problem is it's very difficult to say hand on heart that Biden should be instead.

That went exactly how I thought it would, and the problem is it played to Trump's strengths.

All the Dems needed was someone "normal" against Trump, especially in the midst of crisis after crisis. Someone competent, so the contrast was obvious. Instead, they've put a 77-year-old establishment member up against him and, while not senile, is clearly just a bit past his sell by date.

I hope and pray Biden gets through, but I'd happily see Biden make no more appearances whatsoever until election day.
 
Tubey said:
The problem is it's very difficult to say hand on heart that Biden should be instead.
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It’s really not.

it might be if there were multiple available options, but there aren’t.

The choice is Biden or Trump, and it’s a very very easy thing to say that Biden should be President, when given that choice.

Also on the note of “all the Dems had to do...” While Biden wasn’t my first choice in the Primary (far from it), there is no available evidence - none- that Biden wasn’t the best choice when the primary objective was to beat Trump.
 
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