Current Affairs The 2020 United States Presidential Election

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Totally. The current results, a Biden presidency, and the Senate upheld by Republicans will actually make Mitch Mcconnell the most powerful man in this country for he will have veto power over Biden's agenda. The current outcome is almost as bad as having Trump for another four years because Mitch will be able to rein Biden like he was never able to control unhinged Trump.

Mitch isn’t - Romney is.
 
Good analysis from my fave political poster on another forum

He (Biden) may actually have quite a wide margin win of the EC, which is strange given how dragged out this has been, and how it looked like a possible trump win at the start. All of this is due to the anomalies of the covid election, with all the early voting and the mail-ins coming in late. NO amount of willingness to cheat and bully by trump has been able to stop this, thank god.
I am struck by how inefficiently the US carries out its elections, once again, (for this "beacon" to the world of democracy in action) and how absurd the EC is, and more than anything, of how much of a vote this laughable atrocious monster got after four years of his massive incompetence and ****ups.
Really, the nation has become almost too stupid for democracy. Proof being they nearly elected a dictator wannabee.
 
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Totally. The current results, a Biden presidency, and the Senate upheld by Republicans will actually make Mitch Mcconnell the most powerful man in this country for he will have veto power over Biden's agenda. The current outcome is almost as bad as having Trump for another four years because Mitch will be able to rein Biden like he was never able to control unhinged Trump.

It was looking awful at one point but from what I can gather there is still a way they can take the Senate if the 2 Georgia races go to a run off after Peters held on last night. One already is and the other one (Ossof) is heading that way with votes still to come. Not sure if they need any other wins like Cunningham also but nothing else been mentioned. I think the 2 Georgia seats could determine it.
 
Totally. The current results, a Biden presidency, and the Senate upheld by Republicans will actually make Mitch Mcconnell the most powerful man in this country for he will have veto power over Biden's agenda. The current outcome is almost as bad as having Trump for another four years because Mitch will be able to rein Biden like he was never able to control unhinged Trump.
what about executive orders? can't Biden fix some stuff with them
 
Just a feeling I have mate.

Im saying both sides could be up to stuff as well btw not just the huge vote dumps for Biden.

North Carolina not updating again until 12th November again just seems odd to me when they are in the late 90% last night ?

we know one side were - how many ballots hadn’t been delivered because he jammed up the post again? 300000 wasn’t it?

edit ; also these aren’t vote dumps for Biden, they are ballots the GOP wouldn’t let be counted until now, solely to create the illusion that something is amiss
Aye, that's the thing. They'd be counted by now if it wasn't for the 'kin Republicans. I'm amazed at how brazen they are to complain about it now

It is not odd at all. Before the election our electoral officials had ruled that votes could still be counted until November 12 as long as they were post marked by November 3rd. Republicans brought a lawsuit and the NC and US Supreme Courts upheld NC ruling, allowing those votes to be counted. Currently, even though over 90% of the votes have been counted, the state also is aware there are over 100 thousand absentee ballots that have yet to be returned. If you look at the map below the difference in votes for Trump over Biden is 76701 so given that there are over 100 thousand votes still out there then there could be a potential that the results could change. Although it is very unlikely because for Biden to take the lead he would have to win the majority of those ballots. Moreover, no all the absentee ballots requested get turn in. Some of the people that requested those ballots may have changed their mind and decided to vote in person but there is no way to know until all the votes have been counted thus the reasoning to wait until November 12.

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what about executive orders? can't Biden fix some stuff with them
He can but that's a temporary thing the next president can undo at a whim. @Sassy Colombian is correct but the VP as Speaker of the House can literally choose not to listen to a thing McConnell says. Just because he will control the majority of Senators there isn't anything that says he has to be the one to OK bills and such to be voted on. Put them on record as voting against everything ffs.
 

Black men drifted from Democrats toward Trump in record numbers, polls show


President Donald Trump picked up more Latino voters in several key battleground states than he won in 2016, according to results of a nationwide CNN exit poll.

The 'everyone I don't like is racist' button is starting to malfunction.


But, in Tuesday night’s results, the imprint of class was, if anything, clearer than it had been four years ago. Voters without college degrees continued to slide toward Republicans, and those with them, toward Democrats: according to exit polls, Joe Biden won college-educated voters by thirteen points. In the Midwest, even union ties may have done little to tether non-college-educated voters to Democrats. According to exit polls in Ohio, voters in union households favored Trump by fourteen points; those in non-union households favored him by just eight.

...At the same time, in an interesting juxtaposition, a ballot measure that will raise Florida’s minimum wage to fifteen dollars an hour passed with more than sixty per cent of the vote, winning even in conservative Florida counties like Polk, Pasco, and Sumter. Not long ago, only socialists and trade-unionists were willing to get behind a fifteen-dollar-an-hour minimum wage. You could look at numbers like these and think all that remains is for Republican politicians to follow the lead of their voters.


This is why the 'Sanders would have lost by even more' arguments are so incoherent. Liberals, following their nice, orderly spectrum of left-centre-right, observe the mounting backlash against professional-class identity politics and conclude it also must mean voters are opposed to minimum wage hikes and medicare for all, too. So they ignore the mountain of data showing that these are overwhelmingly popular with voters of both parties, and determine that they need to campaign on incoherent and ideologically-radical pro-market policy contortions like subsidised private insurance instead, because according to their delusional logic this signals 'moderation' and 'centrism'.

It couldn't be further from the truth.

Left-wing policy ideas are overwhelmingly popular with swing Republican voters. Professional class liberal identity politics and wokeness oblige is extremely unpopular with working class voters, all Republican voters, and just about anyone without a college degree, which you effectively need at this point just to be able to determine what the proper etiquette around 'racism' even means. This is why the two most pointedly unwoke candidates ran away with it even in the Democratic primary. American voters hate liberals - but they do not regard Sanders as a liberal, which is why he is so popular with ordinary voters in both parties. The professional class which runs the Democratic Party observes this well-earned loathing and assumes it means voters must hate Sanders even more, since on their orderly but illusory spectrum he is the most 'liberal' of all. But this is wrong. What voters refer to when they say the hate liberals are people like Elizabeth Warren or Pete Buttigieg or, probably most of all, Kamala Harris, who the Democrats are now all but stuck with in 2024 despite being comprehensively and humiliatingly rejected even by her own party. In four years they will be utterly annihilated, and they will deserve it.

The future of American politics belongs to whoever figures out that the Red-Blue divide will be decisively bridged by a candidate promising left-wing economics and right-wing patriotism - and surprisingly strong showing but ultimate defeat of Donald Trump paves the way for Republicans who have already realised at exactly the same moment that the Democrats have doubled-down on the exceedingly unpopular obverse: condescending performative wokeness and professional class liberal sanctimony combined with a very deliberate rejection of overwhelmingly popular economic policies. Get ready for President Tucker Carlson in 2024.
 
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what about executive orders? can't Biden fix some stuff with them
Yes, that's a power he still has.

"Presidential executive orders, once issued, remain in force until they are canceled, revoked, adjudicated unlawful, or expire on their terms. At any time, the president may revoke, modify, or make exceptions from any executive order, whether the order was made by the current president or a predecessor. Typically, a new president reviews in-force executive orders in the first few weeks in office."
 

Black men drifted from Democrats toward Trump in record numbers, polls show


President Donald Trump picked up more Latino voters in several key battleground states than he won in 2016, according to results of a nationwide CNN exit poll.

The 'everyone I don't like is racist' button is starting to malfunction.


But, in Tuesday night’s results, the imprint of class was, if anything, clearer than it had been four years ago. Voters without college degrees continued to slide toward Republicans, and those with them, toward Democrats: according to exit polls, Joe Biden won college-educated voters by thirteen points. In the Midwest, even union ties may have done little to tether non-college-educated voters to Democrats. According to exit polls in Ohio, voters in union households favored Trump by fourteen points; those in non-union households favored him by just eight.

...At the same time, in an interesting juxtaposition, a ballot measure that will raise Florida’s minimum wage to fifteen dollars an hour passed with more than sixty per cent of the vote, winning even in conservative Florida counties like Polk, Pasco, and Sumter. Not long ago, only socialists and trade-unionists were willing to get behind a fifteen-dollar-an-hour minimum wage. You could look at numbers like these and think all that remains is for Republican politicians to follow the lead of their voters.


This is why the 'Sanders would have lost by even more' arguments are so incoherent. Liberals, following their nice, orderly spectrum of left-centre-right, observe the mounting backlash against professional-class identity politics and conclude it also must mean voters are opposed to minimum wage hikes and medicare for all, too. So they ignore the mountain of data showing that these are overwhelmingly popular with voters of both parties, and determine that they need to campaign on incoherent, ideologically-radical and incoherent pro-market policy contortions like subsidised private insurance instead, because in their delusional logic this signals 'moderation' and 'centrism'.

It couldn't be further from the truth.

Left-wing policy ideas are overwhelmingly popular with swing Republican voters. Professional class liberal identity politics and wokeness oblige is extremely unpopular with working class voters, all Republican voters, and just about anyone without a college degree, which you effectively need at this point just to be able to determine what the proper etiquette around 'racism' even means. This is why the two most pointedly unwoke candidates ran away with it even in the Democratic primary. American voters hate liberals - but they do not regard Sanders as a liberal, which is why he is so popular with ordinary voters in both parties. The professional class which runs the Democratic Party observes this well-earned loathing and assumes it means voters must hate Sanders even more, since on their orderly but illusory spectrum he is the most 'liberal' of all. But this is wrong. What voters refer to when they say the hate liberals are people like Elizabeth Warren or Pete Buttigieg or, probably most of all, Kamala Harris, who the Democrats are now all but stuck with in 2024 despite being comprehensively and humiliatingly rejected even by her own party. In four years they will be utterly annihilated, and they will deserve it.

The future of American politics belongs to whoever figures out that the Red-Blue divide will be decisively bridged by a candidate promising left-wing economics and right-wing patriotism - and surprisingly strong showing but ultimate defeat of Donald Trump paves the way for Republicans who have already realised at exactly the same moment that the Democrats have doubled-down on the exceedingly unpopular obverse: condescending performative wokeness and professional class liberal sanctimony combined with a very deliberate rejection of overwhelmingly popular economic policies. Get ready for President Tucker Carlson in 2024.


I would have much preferred Sanders, but it does kinda look like a record turnout for Biden there, doesn't it Abe? It's almost as if American politics is far more complex than the simple struggle against "liberal performative wokeness" you think it is.
 
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It was looking awful at one point but from what I can gather there is still a way they can take the Senate if the 2 Georgia races go to a run off after Peters held on last night. One already is and the other one (Ossof) is heading that way with votes still to come. Not sure if they need any other wins like Cunningham also but nothing else been mentioned. I think the 2 Georgia seats could determine it.
If both of those seats go for run off then we may have a chance and let's hope it happens. Knowing that Mcconnell may have that much more power is making my stomach sick
 
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