Current Affairs The 2020 United States Presidential Election

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He needs 2 of Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania or Georgia I think

EDIT: Assuming he also takes Nevada
He still has a good shout to take GA and PA, due to the urban areas (heavily blue areas) still having relatively low reporting numbers.
 
He worked harder for Biden than Biden has for himself. But he I preaching to a crowd who are completely now disillusioned with the system

Yup, just like he did in 2016.





^ The point is not whether this is true, but whether they can claim this more plausibly than the other side.

Virtually nobody around here will be aware of this, but American conservatism has become considerably more heterodox on economic policy, and, emboldened by what has happened tonight, this trend will only continue, no matter who ends up winning.

When the Republicans finally clue in and run on European-style populism, linking economic security for ordinary people with patriotism and freedom and xenophobia (where they are all far, far more credible than the Democrats), and all the Democrats can manage is some sanctimonious scolding corporate mascot like Kamala Harris who can't even bear pretending to believe her own words as she's saying them, the obliteration will be almost total.

That graph that keeps doing the rounds on here showing all the corporate media aligned neatly, left to right, on a coherent spectrum, has probably caused more harm than just about anything this cycle. The biggest misunderstanding in American politics is not between left and right, but between people like this thread's usual suspects who obsess over politics on an hour basis, and normal people who glance at the headlines, catch snippets on the news, overhear things from co-workers, and start to tune in a few weeks before the election.

The former also believes that voter political preferences, as in media, are likewise aligned on a neat, orderly spectrum. When they see 'the right' moving in what they regard as an extreme direction in culture, they assume that logic mathematically dictates that ordinary people also want 'moderation' on fiscal policy and veer to the 'centre' (which in economic terms means to the extreme), getting thoroughly rinsed by the grifters who Republican voters couldn't wait to be rid of along the way.

In truth, Americans' political views are all over the place. But they have been suffering badly at the hands of both parties (as the story on foreclosures that @verrauxi posted demonstrates), and will vote for anyone who promises to restore their sense of security and dignity, by repeating a simple, coherent economic message over and over again.

They want someone non-threatening who will tell them: "I believe that anyone who works forty hours a week should be able to afford a car, a house, a family and a vacation, and I don't care whether you care about NFL footballers kneeling and the colour of Starbucks coffee cups or not - I am going to fight for you to have this again, against the banks, the corporate media, the political class and anyone else who stands in your way because it is your right to enjoy these freedoms as an American".

Obviously, the entire point of American politics is to prevent any of this from ever actually happening, but we are closer than many of you probably realise to the Republicans being able to lie about this more plausibly than the Democrats.
 
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Trump fans are happy, reading the debatepolitics forum

Way wayyy too early to call"? I'd say more like an eensy bit early to call.

Not called yet but I'm giving North Carolina & Georgia to Trump (source: Decision Desk HQ) ...
NC: Trump leads by 76,701 with >95% in
Georgia: Trump leads by 117,788 with >99% in

I'll give Biden Arizona & Nevada ...
AZ: Biden leads by 130,021 with 80.7-97% in (if 700K election day votes are still outstanding & ED votes are going 65% for Trump, as the AZ GOP maintains, Trump still has a shot, but for argument's sake, let's say Biden pulls it off)
NV: Biden leads by 29,226 with 79.8-95.7% in (again, Trump theoretically still has a chance, but for argument's sake)

So far, Trump 248 to Biden 244. Here are the results as of right now from Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin ...
PA: Trump leads by 719,270 with 73.7-87.2% in
MI: Trump leads by 277,342 with 68.3-80.2% in
WI: Trump leads by 109,805 with 86.9-99% in

If you're being generous to Biden, you can call PA, MI & WI tossups, despite Trump's leads in all 3 states. Biden would have to take 2 of the 3 tossups to win, and frankly, there aren't that many votes left uncounted. Biden would have to win a huge percentage of the votes outstanding to pull that off.

Can I definitively call the election for Trump? No, but I would much rather be in his position than Biden's.
 
I am no fan of the Democratic establishment, and they absolutely should have been removed after 2016, but I would have thought it should now be obvious that the GOP have enough control over the media and social media that any Dem candidate would start at a massive disadvantage.

You see the same phenomenon over here, where a de-Corbyned Labour are against a clearly dreadful regime but somehow this hasn't resulted in them being 20 points up.
Wait... are you saying that corporate media and Silicon Valley are biased in favour of Donald Trump?
 
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