Current Affairs The 2020 United States Presidential Election

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The problem mate is Trump won the last election, so if his shtick is still working, he's in with a chance of doing it again.

Biden is as hopeless as Hilary was tonight. There will people who were swinging to Biden who'll be having second thoughts here.
People have a better opinion of Biden than they did Clinton. Not even the left liked Clinton. The party might have but people seemed not to care about her and her behavior lost her the election.

That and four years of Trump has changed many.

No one cares about who wins these debates.

This election will come down to the swing states and whether they really want Trump or if they are sick of his lies.

Biden age and fictitious sh*t about Ukraine and China is all Trump has and its not coming across well.

Pretty sure everything he has said and done in the last 8 months alone is enough for people to consider their choices. Just look at how many people have voted early already. People seem engaged. They didn't wait for tonight's debate.
 
People have a better opinion of Biden than they did Clinton. Not even the left liked Clinton. The party might have but people seemed not to care about her and her behavior lost her the election.

That and four years of Trump has changed many.

No one cares about who wins these debates.

This election will come down to the swing states and whether they really want Trump or if they are sick of his lies.

Biden age and fictitious sh*t about Ukraine and China is all Trump has and its not coming across well.

Pretty sure everything he has said and done in the last 8 months alone is enough for people to consider their choices. Just look at how many people have voted early already. People seem engaged. They didn't wait for tonight's debate.

Oh I think they do. Uniquely so actually. The issue with Biden, pretty much the sole issue, is one of competence. People are willing to bin Trump as long as Biden is competent.

He's looking... shaky here. Will it swing the election 10 points or whatever? No. But it may swing it by the odd one or two, and if the polls are wrong again that could be critical.

I want a Biden win - desperately - but he's poor here, and Trump has turned up a thousand times better than the first debate.
 
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