The 2015 Popularity Contest (aka UK General Election )

Who will you be voting for?

  • Tory

    Votes: 38 9.9%
  • Diet Tory (Labour)

    Votes: 132 34.3%
  • Tory Zero (Greens)

    Votes: 44 11.4%
  • Extra Tory with lemon (UKIP)

    Votes: 40 10.4%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 9 2.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 31 8.1%
  • Cheese on toast

    Votes: 91 23.6%

  • Total voters
    385
  • Poll closed .
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Just has LBC on, and an Aussie hairdresser admit tied he wanted ethnic workers in his salon as a British worker would not be suitable listening to his argument it was feasible skills on doing Afros etc - when a Linconshire farm master comes on TV and claims EU migrants are better than British workers, as they are laze etc is that not a racist comment ?
He preferred EU workers as he could flout laws by charging them for accomodation which was shambolic to deduct it from the minimum wage - at the moment these laws do need looking at yes mentions it and oh it's racist, people can
You have heard only what you wanted to hear from his statement - when Gordon Brown sated Brith jobs for British workers there is nothing different in what he stated this morning yet the establishment on on to it in a racist way
It is alright for firms to advertise jobs straight over to the EU without the jobs being advertised here first that's racist against the British worker is it not - I have heard the fruit picking farms I.
He was asked whether there would be a law against discrimination on the grounds of race or colour and he replied "No, because we take the view, we are colour-blind. We as a party are colour-blind.". It's like claiming discrimination on these grounds doesn't exist.
What is the difference in ex prime minister declaring British jobs for British workers in the 2010 general election?
Nigel Farage makes a statement similar, and is declared a racist by the merely mouth establishment who imo have discriminated the disabled claiments who have worked an contributed - even the blind, cancer patients are being assessed for work.
I feel N F is just asking for a level playing field!
 
Just has LBC on, and an Aussie hairdresser admit tied he wanted ethnic workers in his salon as a British worker would not be suitable listening to his argument it was feasible skills on doing Afros etc - when a Linconshire farm master comes on TV and claims EU migrants are better than British workers, as they are laze etc is that not a racist comment ?
He preferred EU workers as he could flout laws by charging them for accomodation which was shambolic to deduct it from the minimum wage - at the moment these laws do need looking at yes mentions it and oh it's racist, people can

I hate hearing this. It's a lazy trope trotted out by both sides. Much of the time, it means "they're easier to exploit", I agree.

The hairdresser's remark doesn't hold water. A "British" (by which I assume you mean white, as there are British people of many ethnic origins) worker may have those skills, and if they haven't, they wouldn't get the job. There's no reason there to discriminate on grounds of race or nationality.

I haven't called Farage a racist here, I just think his comments are ridiculous and what he suggests unworkable. It's easy to say racism and discrimination don't exist anymore when you're in a position where you'll never really have experienced either.
 
Just has LBC on, and an Aussie hairdresser admit tied he wanted ethnic workers in his salon as a British worker would not be suitable listening to his argument it was feasible skills on doing Afros etc - when a Linconshire farm master comes on TV and claims EU migrants are better than British workers, as they are laze etc is that not a racist comment ?
He preferred EU workers as he could flout laws by charging them for accomodation which was shambolic to deduct it from the minimum wage - at the moment these laws do need looking at yes mentions it and oh it's racist, people can


Joey, one of the points though is that there are not many British workers who will go out in the field, cutting cabbage, etc. They choose not to hence there is a vacuum which the likes of the Poles fill. Boston in Lincolnshire is full of East Europeans because they will work in the fields.
 
Joey, one of the points though is that there are not many British workers who will go out in the field, cutting cabbage, etc. They choose not to hence there is a vacuum which the likes of the Poles fill. Boston in Lincolnshire is full of East Europeans because they will work in the fields.
It's over cheap accomodation on the Lincolnshire farms that the E U immigrants lap up,the poor pay - I will not purchase Lincolnshire potatoes veg etc after seeing a documentary as the gang masters are profiteering on cheap labour!
 
I hate hearing this. It's a lazy trope trotted out by both sides. Much of the time, it means "they're easier to exploit", I agree.

The hairdresser's remark doesn't hold water. A "British" (by which I assume you mean white, as there are British people of many ethnic origins) worker may have those skills, and if they haven't, they wouldn't get the job. There's no reason there to discriminate on grounds of race or nationality.

I haven't called Farage a racist here, I just think his comments are ridiculous and what he suggests unworkable. It's easy to say racism and discrimination don't exist anymore when you're in a position where you'll never really have experienced either.
If you ever move away from Liverpool like I did in my career - your Scouse accent can be discriminated- you have to learn how to overcome it on ability - not easy!
 
If you ever move away from Liverpool like I did in my career - your Scouse accent can be discriminated- you have to learn how to overcome it on ability - not easy!


That is correct, Joey. Coming from Liverpool can carry a stigma and you can suffer for it.
 
More inequality news:

http://www.smf.co.uk/publications/wealth-in-the-downturn-winners-and-losers/

Over the last decade:

The winners include:

  • The top 20%: The top income group are far more financially secure today than those in the top incomes going into the downturn. Median financial wealth in this group increased by 64% between 2005 and 2012-13. They are now less likely to be in debt compared to the middle-income group – a reversal of the pre-crisis trend. The proportion of individuals with non-mortgage debt in this group fell from 43% in 2005 to 31% in 2012-13. The top 40% have also seen an improvement, although the increase in financial security is not as substantial.
  • Homeowners: Homeowners have been able to add more to their savings than other individuals, as they have benefited from lower housing costs. While those who were renting in 2005 saw no overall changes in financial wealth over the course of the subsequent seven years, those who started off as outright homeowners added an additional £750; and those with mortgages added £300. Those that paid off their mortgage between 2005 and 2012 saw a gain of £2,500. This is above and beyond the any gains made from increases in property values.
The losers include:

  • The bottom 20%: The lowest income group are less financially secure today than those on the lowest incomes going into the downturn. By 2012-13, median financial wealth among the lowest income group was 57% lower than in 2005. Over the same period, the proportion of those on the lowest incomes with non-mortgage debt increased; and the value of that debt rose faster than incomes – by 67%. The use of overdrafts has risen, most likely as a consequence of general pressure on finances.
  • 26-35 year olds: The intergenerational gap in incomes and wealth has widened. Wages for younger workers fell substantially during the downturn – at a greater rate than the average. 26-35 year-olds today are less likely to own a home. In 2005, 74% of 26-35 year olds owned a home; by 2012-13, this had dropped to 54%. Whilst the average deposit for first-time buyers has risen, the amount 26-35 year olds have in savings has fallen by 36%. On average, they have less than one week’s worth of income in savings. And whilst the proportion of 26-35 year olds in debt has slightly fallen, the amount debt-holders in this age group owe has increased by 45%. As with the low income group, the use of overdrafts has increased.

Remember, everyone, we're all in this together.
 
All in it together News:

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Judge Call Me Dave on his record, he said. You heard the man.
 
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Don't really pay attention to UK politics, seemed like a bunch of back scratching eton bells when I lived there. So is this UKIP and the BNP related?

Only in as far as the leader of the BNP is telling his followers to vote for UKIP.

UKIP explicitly forbid ex-BNP members from joining, because they don't want to be tainted by association. They're not so picky about the NF and other far right groups though.
 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ory-welfare-myths-shows-new-poll-8437872.html

Ministers were accused of demonising benefits claimants in an attempt to justify their controversial decision to increase most state handouts by less than inflation.

Polling commissioned by the Trades Union Congress suggests that a campaign by Tory ministers is turning voters against claimants – but only because the public is being fed "myths" about those who rely on benefits.


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