The “Gammon” debate

[DrEFC]

Have you ever been to Africa? The people there are so racist that they massacre people in the next village because they don't belong to the same tribe (never mind race). People in this country are more likely to be murdered by someone from the same race than by another.

You been on the sherbet all day after your Royal wedding street party?

 

[Blue 1]

I left school at 16 mate and went to work for Barrett’s, so I’m not the most educated, but I agree mate, we know what is racist, the problem is we live in a world where everything (especially if you’re white) is deemed offensive or racist, or dare I say it ‘PC’ I mean, no more ba ba black sheep!

No more ba ba black sheep is one of those nonsense stories that has been around since the 1980's and just won't die. My kids have both been taught it at playgroup/nursery in the last couple of years.

 

[Sarnia Kevin]

You been on the sherbet all day after your Royal wedding street party?

Wait, there's been a Royal Wedding? They certainly kept that quiet . No I haven't been to any party or been on the sherbert.

There's no mass interracial violence in this country, the spate of murders in London are same race gang related. The same applies in the USA, you are more likely to be murdered there by someone of the same race as yourself.

 

[DrEFC]

Wait, there's been a Royal Wedding? They certainly kept that quiet . No I haven't been to any party or been on the sherbert.

There's no mass interracial violence in this country, the spate of murders in London are same race gang related. The same applies in the USA, you are more likely to be murdered there by someone of the same race as yourself.

I think you're not following me, I don't disagree that we don't have massive amounts of race-related murders in the UK (The U.S. is different- re: racists in uniform)

 

[Sarnia Kevin]

I think you're not following me, I don't disagree that we don't have massive amounts of race-related murders in the UK (The U.S. is different- re: racists in uniform)

In the US you are more likely to be shot by the police if you're white. Unfortunately that statistic doesn't suit the BLM narrative. Obama did race relations in the US no favours by defending black criminals who got themselves shot by the police.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Anyone who finds it 'racist' is a snowflake.

It's the snowflakes who are kicking off.

The Gammons can't give a toss

 

[Barnfred 55]

The term “Gammon faced” has become quite popular for describing angry/shouty middle aged white men who typically voted for brexit, support UKIP and hate immigramts. Now the gammons are fighting back and sayings it’s racist.

Personally im not sure how it’s racist given gammon is a reference to someone getting redfaced with rage whereas someone has no say over their race. Others then counter this by saying that if you made a stereotype like this for other races you’d be labelled racist, after all white people cant help their faces going red when they rage.

So where stand you GOT ?

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The only Gammon debate I'm interested in is "Egg or pineapple?"

 

[Walken]

In the US you are more likely to be shot by the police if you're white. Unfortunately that statistic doesn't suit the BLM narrative. Obama did race relations in the US no favours by defending black criminals who got themselves shot by the police.

examples please

 

[Walken]

In the US you are more likely to be shot by the police if you're white. Unfortunately that statistic doesn't suit the BLM narrative. Obama did race relations in the US no favours by defending black criminals who got themselves shot by the police.

also, this is a false statement, there are more white people shot by police, but you are not more likely to be shot by police if you are white, it seems you are moving towards painting any black person with claims of racism in the western world as playing the victim card, I'd say you are entering worrying territory and I question the motive

 

[Sarnia Kevin]

also, this is a false statement, there are more white people shot by police, but you are not more likely to be shot by police if you are white, it seems you are moving towards painting any black person with claims of racism in the western world as playing the victim card, I'd say you are entering worrying territory and I question the motive

There is evidence to show that the police in the US are more likely to think twice before shooting a person of colour than a white. I don't have any motive, but I do question the BLM narrative that tries to paint people of colour as victims of racism whatever the circumstance of the case. It doesn't further the cause of equality by creating a false narrative. If you keep telling people that the "racist" police are out to kill you for nothing, they will surely start to believe it.
I'm no racist, having spent 49 years in the MN working with, and respecting, people from many different races, cultures and creeds. I don't see that twisting the facts to suit a narrative helps race relations.

 

[Walken]

There is evidence to show that the police in the US are more likely to think twice before shooting a person of colour than a white. I don't have any motive, but I do question the BLM narrative that tries to paint people of colour as victims of racism whatever the circumstance of the case. It doesn't further the cause of equality by creating a false narrative. If you keep telling people that the "racist" police are out to kill you for nothing, they will surely start to believe it.
I'm no racist, having spent 49 years in the MN working with, and respecting, people from many different races, cultures and creeds. I don't see that twisting the facts to suit a narrative helps race relations.

So you do deny the existence of racism in western culture and anyone claiming so is playing the victim? A simple question also and most importantly, I want you to take back your false statement that you are more likely to be shot by police in USA if you are white, that is not true, and you need to admit it. Throwing around false statements and then claiming there is evidence without giving any evidence is a low level of argument

 

[DrEFC]

In the US you are more likely to be shot by the police if you're white. Unfortunately that statistic doesn't suit the BLM narrative. Obama did race relations in the US no favours by defending black criminals who got themselves shot by the police.

Really, Obama was covering this up, or having a criminal past gives justification to murder an unarmed man? Are you serious? Are you talking about percentage shot dead by police because they are involved in a violent crime armed (which by numbers of population should majorly be white European heritage), or are we talking about death of unarmed, minimal threat victims. I'd love to see your working out on this.

 

[DrEFC]

So you do deny the existence of racism in western culture and anyone claiming so is playing the victim? A simple question also and most importantly, I want you to take back your false statement that you are more likely to be shot by police in USA if you are white, that is not true, and you need to admit it. Throwing around false statements and then claiming there is evidence without giving any evidence is a low level of argument

I'm struggling to comprehend his thoughts on this.

 

[Walken]

I'm struggling to comprehend his thoughts on this.

I'm putting it down to some form of blinding patriotism at the moment

 

[Sarnia Kevin]

So you do deny the existence of racism in western culture and anyone claiming so is playing the victim? A simple question also and most importantly, I want you to take back your false statement that you are more likely to be shot by police in USA if you are white, that is not true, and you need to admit it. Throwing around false statements and then claiming there is evidence without giving any evidence is a low level of argument

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/