Alan Whittle
Player Valuation: £70m
True dat!Wembley victory and more than Brighton have
TalkSports' 30 biggest clubs in the UK
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TraffordBlue
Player Valuation: £30m
Assuming the current 'Big 6' + Everton, Villa, Newcastle and Leeds make up the 10 biggest English clubs, it would be interesting to see how everyone would rank the next 10 biggest which requires a lot more consideration about what those clubs have done rather than using Facebook likes by gloryhunters around the world as one of the criteria.
I would go with these but the order is difficult: Sunderland, West Ham, Wolves, Nottingham Forest, Sheffield Wednesday, Derby, Leicester, Blackburn, Bolton, West Brom.
I would go with these but the order is difficult: Sunderland, West Ham, Wolves, Nottingham Forest, Sheffield Wednesday, Derby, Leicester, Blackburn, Bolton, West Brom.
Abertonian
Player Valuation: £20m
A difficult task to be sure, but reckon the likes of: Fulham, Middlesboro, Southampton and Ipswich could have grounds to contest their exclusion.
jaycee
Player Valuation: £60m
The next lot as you say is very difficult,Wolves were/could be a very big club,Ipswich,Sheffield United,would you go on history,attendance,potential ?
Ron Swanson
Player Valuation: £2.5m
By more or less any barometer, Chelsea and City are more massive right now.
Maybe we edge it in UK support but Chelsea and City worldwide fanbase is bigger than ours (social media, as a measure, puts us at 7th behind Spurs).
Chelsea, Spurs and City have a much bigger turnover.
Chelsea, Spurs and City are worth more than us.
Chelsea and Spurs have more elite trophies than us and, unless something radically changes, City will overtake us in a few years.
We haven't won a major trophy since 1995. Since that time, Chelsea have won 18 and City have 6.
Living outside of England as I do, its easier to see our standing in the UK. When I was a kid, most people in NI seemed to support Everton, Arse, Utd or RS. Now all I see on the school playground are Utd, City and Chelsea shirts. As the 'Fave uncle' I tried to get my nephews into Everton but after a year in school they 'became' City 'fans'.
I agree that we're a massive club with a great history (and so much potential with investment), but let's be honest, whatever else that list got wrong we're exactly where we deserve to be on it right now.
TraffordBlue
Player Valuation: £30m
Those 3 clubs are bigger than us at the moment.
The elite trophies thing doesn't sit well with me though. Spurs being described as 'more successful' or having more elite trophies than Everton is quite simply laughable. Not all trophies are equal and some people use the term "success" to try and give the impression that winning a League Cup is on a par with winning a League Title. It would be ridiculous to suggest that Swansea's League Cup win was equal to Leicester's title win and suggesting Spurs have won more than Everton because they have more second rate trophies is similar.
Winning the FA Cup and comparing it to a title win is like a Tennis player winning the Beijing Masters and ranking it alongside a Wimbledon win. Look at the Olympics, the only thing that matters are the Gold Medals in the ranking table and for me there are only 2 major trophies to be won in Football and that is the League Title and Champions League. Winning the Europa League and League Cup may be nice for the fans but they're not the best competitions and can't be viewed as such.
How many people on this forum can remember Spurs being the best side in the Country? Not many I would imagine, and their 2 League Titles is pathetic for a club their size.
longers
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You must be quite young. The FA Cup was considered a huge deal for most of its history. Only in past 15 or so years it’s rep has gone downhill.
NEWSWEETTOFFEE
Player Valuation: £1m
maybe its better to compare only by succes but even than it would be hard
how much are worth forests two european cups against six sunderlands titles? or something like that
how much are worth forests two european cups against six sunderlands titles? or something like that
Yid4life
Player Valuation: £40m
Interesting. I think sixth is about right for us. Considering we have only won 2 league cups since 1991 i think it is very impressive that we can still draw crowds of over 60k for games vs Stoke, Bournemouth & Burnley etc as what is effectively an away ground with the cheapest tickets around £35.
All a bit academic though really, the 'big club' debate has been done to death & is meaningless in the big scheme of things.
All a bit academic though really, the 'big club' debate has been done to death & is meaningless in the big scheme of things.
8.7 million people in London though
I'd be worried if ye couldn't bring in a crowd considering how many tourists are in London every day looking for an event to go to
TraffordBlue
Player Valuation: £30m
Not denying that and as a fan it is amazing to win it, but it's still not close to the achievement of winning a title over 38/42 games in my opinion.
H.H.
Player Valuation: £10m
Not interested in saying Spurs should be in "whatever position" but reading today's news that our new stadium capacity has been given the OK to go up by just over 500 (without the need to make the stadium footprint bigger,) to a capacity now of just over 62,000 is great news.
I do believe that a stadiums big capacity does give off an image of a club "being bigger" and as I'm writing this it made me think of Dortmund (who when I was younger I had never heard of. Have they only become "big" in the last 15-20 years and (I know they had a few good seasons in the C/L) has their very high stadium capacity helped with that image?????
I do believe that a stadiums big capacity does give off an image of a club "being bigger" and as I'm writing this it made me think of Dortmund (who when I was younger I had never heard of. Have they only become "big" in the last 15-20 years and (I know they had a few good seasons in the C/L) has their very high stadium capacity helped with that image?????
NorthernBlue
Player Valuation: £35m
Spurs shouldn't be above us. Only two league titles so behind you go. City only above due to money so arguably behind you go to.
I hope the away end is as far away from the pitch as possible. Up on the roof if possible
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