Summer Transfer Window 2025 Thread

[billyblue80]

…..minimum requirement given the number of players that might need replacing;

DCL, Doucoure, Gueye, Young, Harrison, Lindstrom, Alcaraz and Mangala have started lots of games this season and are not contracted to be here. Then add in the likes of Broja, Coleman and Keane. It’s a major rebuild required, a major challenge for Moyes and his recruitment team.

Also an opportunity if you get it right. Some of the names mentioned (I would guess Gana, Alcaraz, maybe Young and Doucoure) will stay and some haven't contrubuted much. I agree its tough but three quality first team players and some decent squad fillers could get us comfortably midtable and ready to push higher.

 

[Vintage]

Longstaff yeah, that is Type of player to sky rocket us to 12 /13 place in league next season, ffs we never f learn….

Surely just one of those rehashed rumours. It's a position we are strong enough in esp in Alcaraz is signed permanently

 

[Lanolin]

If we sign ready made players like @Raino85 wants then 12th is unacceptable.

If we focus on a rebuild with younger, developing players then 12th might be acceptable.

Depending of course on the money spent.

Personally, i'd like to see younger players signed and 8th place as being the finishing point next season.

I think 12th is unacceptable as an aim. The reality is the league is often tight and you may end up 12th but still have made progress, but by the same token if you're aiming for 12th it's very easy to find yourself in a relegation scrap if things go slightly awry.

 

[Marius57]

If we sign ready made players like @Raino85 wants then 12th is unacceptable.

If we focus on a rebuild with younger, developing players then 12th might be acceptable.

Depending of course on the money spent.

Personally, i'd like to see younger players signed and 8th place as being the finishing point next season.

12 should have been the respectable target at the start of this season based off last seasons points total, as I was saying in the summer.

But instead, we went to target 17th.

So now 12th is being considered the respectable target for next season.

People talk about our squad being full of crap players who are only relegation scrappers, it’s a total fallacy.

This league isn’t as good as people make out and people need to stop acting as if all the other teams are full of amazing players when really, 8th down to 17th are all just pretty average but occasionally look fantastic.

Just look at how people talk about Brentford, Brighton and bourenmouth. Yet if we had beaten saints, Leicester and bourenmouth like we should have done (and Moyes would have) we would be 10th and ahead of 2 of them.

We should be targeting at worse, being better than the majority of that dross (that doesn’t mean European qualification).

 

[billyblue80]

Longstaff yeah, that is Type of player to sky rocket us to 12 /13 place in league next season, ffs we never f learn….

Not a big fan of him but as a squad player at low cost he would be alright, we need several players they can't all be young prospects

 

[billyblue80]

12 should have been the respectable target at the start of this season based off last seasons points total, as I was saying in the summer.

But instead, we went to target 17th.

So now 12th is being considered the respectable target for next season.

People talk about our squad being full of crap players who are only relegation scrappers, it’s a total fallacy.

This league isn’t as good as people make out and people need to stop acting as if all the other teams are full of amazing players when really, 8th down to 17th are all just pretty average but occasionally look fantastic.

Just look at how people talk about Brentford, Brighton and bourenmouth. Yet if we had beaten saints, Leicester and bourenmouth like we should have done (and Moyes would have) we would be 10th and ahead of 2 of them.

Even Forest aren't exceptional what they have is a very solid team, with effective counter attack with some sprinkling of quality pace and creativity (in Elanga, Gibbs White, Anderson, Hudson Odoi), and a striker who had the season of his life. We need more pace and creativity and one or two regular scorers.

 

[Vintage]

Wonder if Kabore the RB we were briefly linked with last summer be worth a try on loan. Did well seemingly on at Luton last season from Man City but has struggled at Benfica before going to Bremen on loan since. Still contracted to City

 

[Marius57]

Even Forest aren't exceptional what they have is a very solid team with some sprinkling of pace and creativity, and a striker who had the season of his life. We need more pace and creativity and one or two regular scorers.

Agreed, our defence with a pacy right winger and even just a striker that will slot 8-10 a season and we are up in top half.

 

[Raino85]

If we sign ready made players like @Raino85 wants then 12th is unacceptable.

If we focus on a rebuild with younger, developing players then 12th might be acceptable.

Depending of course on the money spent.

Personally, i'd like to see younger players signed and 8th place as being the finishing point next season.

What happens when we finish 12th with some of those younger players, but they want more and want to get off to play in Europe because they are bored of 'building'

 

[Raino85]

Wonder if Kabore the RB we were briefly linked with last summer be worth a try on loan. Did well seemingly on at Luton last season from Man City but has struggled at Benfica before going to Bremen on loan since. Still contracted to City

He was pretty much done and dusted but we kept pushing it back further down the line to keep our pallet dry on that one remaining domestic loan slot, eventually City got tired of waiting and we likely prioritized a forward for that loan (Broja)

coming back from Benfica to then go back out to Werder Bremen doesn't exactly cry out that he's doing great though.

 

[Raino85]

Because he was only £10m quid, not in there first team and they will be expecting a lot more for the likes of Bellingham, Rigg, Cirkin etc

@Neiler what are you unsure of?

That Sunderland wont want more for important first team regulars performing at good Chamionship level? That would be more of an outlay and a bigger risk as they havent played any sort of PL football.

I'd also imagine Sunderland don't want to agree any sales of the other lads that have actually contributed until they know what league they will be in next season, a promotion could change the whole perspective, while the young lad was nothing more than potential really

 

[Eggs]

Wonder if Kabore the RB we were briefly linked with last summer be worth a try on loan. Did well seemingly on at Luton last season from Man City but has struggled at Benfica before going to Bremen on loan since. Still contracted to City

…I like him too but it’s a new regime now.

 

[Neiler]

@Neiler what are you unsure of?

That Sunderland wont want more for important first team regulars performing at good Chamionship level? That would be more of an outlay and a bigger risk as they havent played any sort of PL football.

I'd also imagine Sunderland don't want to agree any sales of the other lads that have actually contributed until they know what league they will be in next season, a promotion could change the whole perspective, while the young lad was nothing more than potential really

I dont believe Brighton sign a player with their current resources and depth for any of the diminishing reasons to be honest. There much vauntyed socuting and data systems have clearly seen something in this lad before hes bolted and theyve swooped ahead of others.

Maybe thats the difference in what they do - everyone looking at Bellingham, Rigg and Criken and identifying them on here - but no one mentioned the above lad bar Edge.

 

[Zatara]

What happens when we finish 12th with some of those younger players, but they want more and want to get off to play in Europe because they are bored of 'building'

If they put in internal transfer requests then the club has them on long contracts and can dictate fees far higher than their purchase price.

 

[Billy Dean]

I dont believe Brighton sign a player with their current resources and depth for any of the diminishing reasons to be honest. There much vauntyed socuting and data systems have clearly seen something in this lad before hes bolted and theyve swooped ahead of others.

Maybe thats the difference in what they do - everyone looking at Bellingham, Rigg and Criken and identifying them on here - but no one mentioned the above lad bar Edge.

I could be wrong but I think he might have suffered some injuries after initially breaking through around the same time as Rigg. If that's correct it might explain why he went off the radar a little bit