Summer Transfer Window 2025 Thread

[pfim]

Why soccer's summer transfer window lull won't last long

The final days of July are the dog days of soccer's summer transfer window, but August will bring a flurry of wheeling and dealing.

www.espn.com

Thought this was an interesting read.

Doesn’t change the fact that we can barely put out a starting 11 and have a giant CB playing RB, but interesting nonetheless

 

[Jebus_lives]

A bit different as Thelwell has a track record in management.

I dont know what Hammonds track record is. Dont think hes even an employee?

Seems to be an 'outsourced negotiator'

Bit of a movie title.

Outsourced negotiator sounds like a movie title if you don't consider what the word means.

You could apply the same title to an estate agent.

 

[Toffeepot]

The annoying thing is we haven't got the definite 'no' from the likes of Fofana or Luiz because we haven't met the asking prices, so can't focus fully elsewhere.
I want us to be more cautious with the fees and contracts but at some point we have to accept that some players just need paying for when they definitely improve us.

 

[Toffeepot]

Why soccer's summer transfer window lull won't last long

The final days of July are the dog days of soccer's summer transfer window, but August will bring a flurry of wheeling and dealing.

www.espn.com

Thought this was an interesting read.

Doesn’t change the fact that we can barely put out a starting 11 and have a giant CB playing RB, but interesting nonetheless

I love our giant CB at FB
can't wait for him to eat Gnonto

 

[pfim]

The annoying thing is we haven't got the definite 'no' from the likes of Fofana or Luiz because we haven't met the asking prices, so can't focus fully elsewhere.
I want us to be more cautious with the fees and contracts but at some point we have to accept that some players just need paying for when they definitely improve us.

If we got the player on board then it makes sense to go back to the club. Neither player seems convinced so what’s the point of giving up all of your leverage? It seems that most of this has to do with convincing the player if you believe the manager.

 

[Lloydaldo11]

We’re not the only club struggling. In the last week Howe and Glasner, both in Europe btw, have come out frustrated as to where their clubs are. Fact is we need more players than they do.

Despite the super league being “killed off” that’s exactly where we are. There may as well be 3 transfer windows.
- The PSR one where the big boys pick off your players if you’re in trouble
- this one where only really the Top 6 and CL clubs buy
- and then the last two weeks to scoop up who is left.

The transfer market being uncompetitive is a direct correlation to the financial rules preventing competition.

I get Moyes frustration and he’s doing what he’s doing to keep pressure on the recruitment team but equally it’s not a good look for the club.

Spot on.

Aside from the super league lot, there’s been little movement substantially in the market so far.

Mid/end of August and things will start moving, especially in a World Cup year when players realise it’s either sit on a bench or wait for the “champions league” which doesn’t turn up for them.

 

[DualityNSNO]

The annoying thing is we haven't got the definite 'no' from the likes of Fofana or Luiz because we haven't met the asking prices, so can't focus fully elsewhere.

We haven't? What, the first 3 "no"'s weren't good enough and us trying to keep lowballing them will succeed in the end?

Also a team of something like 10-15 people can't focus on more than 1 player at a time apparently.

 

[HappyJack]

 

[Toffeepot]

We haven't? What, the first 3 "no"'s weren't good enough and us trying to keep lowballing them will succeed in the end?

Also a team of something like 10-15 people can't focus on more than 1 player at a time apparently.

I meant definite 'no' from the players
You could have 400 people but still have the same funds to spend

 

[Saint Domingo]

The problem though is that because of European football and the fact that the better teams now dominate the cups, there are plenty of minutes to go round for the top clubs. If you look at someone like Dewsbury-Hall at Chelsea as an example, your perception would be that he's hardly played, but actually because of all the games they play he ended up playing 36 games for them so he's barely any worse off for minutes than he would be if he came to a club like us.

There could definitely be some tightening up of the rules on squad sizes and loans. There’s some lads at Chelsea who just spend years of their career out on loan at European clubs. Chelsea aren’t picking up the tab, the loaning clubs are essentially renting them, yet Chelsea retain the value of the player so when an Everton ask for Chelsea’s 10th choice midfielder they get quoted an absolutely obscene amount, only to find he’ll be playing on loan in the Bundesliga the week after.

It’s the equivalent of landlords hoovering up the property market, renting to their preferred tenants, and the market for the rest of the buyers just gets higher and higher.

 

[Toffe3m4n]

We haven't? What, the first 3 "no"'s weren't good enough and us trying to keep lowballing them will succeed in the end?

Also a team of something like 10-15 people can't focus on more than 1 player at a time apparently.

We literally have zero idea whether this has actually happened or not

 

[Toffeepot]

If we got the player on board then it makes sense to go back to the club. Neither player seems convinced so what’s the point of giving up all of your leverage? It seems that most of this has to do with convincing the player if you believe the manager.

Probably true, but at the same time as it stands there are 3 in the equation, the selling club, the player and us. Makes sense to remove one and pay the extra 4mil or whatever and get the player to make a final decision

 

[DualityNSNO]

I meant definite 'no' from the players
You could have 400 people but still have the same funds the same

Yeah but it's not like 400 people are looking at Fofana alone, you'd think? Cuz that's how it's being made out - like we've sent the entire scouting team and management to look at Fofana alone, all together, in a tent outside the training ground like a big circus.

And no we've not had a definite no from them, just that the price isn't right and that they want to play in Europe, which is just about a full on rejection anyway.

I get trying to spin it positively cuz we've gotten a few players, but we're still operating at a snail's pace until the dying moment. So the more things have changed, the more they've stayed the same in that regard, and we'll start poorly, for about the 20th time in the last 25 years.

 

[DualityNSNO]

We literally have zero idea whether this has actually happened or not

Yes, it's been dragged on for weeks because both parties are so keen to do a deal.

 

[Raino85]

Bank holiday sale starts day after deadline day? Great!

Wild that the idea of giving a player some sort of timescale to agree to the move is controversial.

Would Lukaku of signed for us on loan if it wasn't on deadline day? I doubt it, he sat and waited to see what was availible or if he was in Chelsea's plans.