Match Thread Spurs v Everton Sat 17:30

[Jreverton1]

"boo stats booo" and all that, but it is actually pretty accurate estimation of a team's goalscoring ability.

Honestly I have no idea what it is nor can I work it out but 1 shot on target in 32 games suggest a very small chance of scoring a goal.

 

[Super Kevin sheedy]

I had us down to be the first to beat Citeh.
Sadly I think the RS will beat us to it.

Us the first to beat City Tom?, dreading it could be embarrassing

 

[Caolam]

Does anybody know what we are trying to do, can anyone see a plan in what is happening.

 

[buededw1]

The NBC commentators were talking about it.

Cant see, how thats a possibility after how much sam said he had to make sure the singings were correct and then it was reiterated that both manager and walsh signed off on all players.

 

[ToffeeTim]

I have no idea what this means but I know it’s not good...

It means statistically, given our all round play, chances, efforts etc, we aren't doing enough to be likely to score even once in a game.

Basically, it's not bad luck, missed chances etc, it's expected.

 

[ToffeeTim]

I literally have no idea what this expected goals crap is. I guess it's some stats fella trying to justify his job.

It's a good indicator I think. If we were failing to score but regularly getting xg of 1.2-1.5 or so then you could put it down to a mixture of luck and failing to take good chances. The fact ours is regularly around 0.3 shows this ain't bad luck, this us because we create nothing whatsoever.

 

[tommytowne]

Us the first to beat City Tom?, dreading it could be embarrassing

I flit between eternal pessimist and hopeless romantic and base my feeling on last season's meeting when the rout I was expecting was by us and not them.

 

[Jreverton1]

It's a good indicator I think. If we were failing to score but regularly getting xg of 1.2-1.5 or so then you could put it down to a mixture of luck and failing to take good chances. The fact ours is regularly around 0.3 shows this ain't bad luck, this us because we create nothing whatsoever.

But I don't need 'expected goals' to tell me this, 'shots on target' will do that just fine.

 

[collymcd]

Go support Spurs then...I am/nor never will be envious of another team...we should aspire to beat them...not be jealous of them

Our current team just aren't very good...but they are still Everton and I'll take a not very good Everton over a decent Spurs team any day

Cheers for giving me a bit of direction. I'd be lost without someone like you.

I'll heed your advice and never admire any non-Everton players again. From now on I'll be a proper blue just like you. I promise.

 

[ToffeeTim]

But I don't need 'expected goals' to tell me this, 'shots on target' will do that just fine.

Not always. But yes I agree.

In this case XG just backs up the obvious that we are not threatening one little bit.

But what XG is really important for is seeing who outperforms it. The best teams score 2 goals from 0.7 XG. The best keepers keep a clean sheet off 2.5 xg. Ideally you want a high XG but also to outperform. We have a diabolical one and are still under performing both offensively and scarily, at the back. Spurs XG was 3.6, we conceded 4....

I do love statistics a bit much to be fair. But if the club gave me a job to produce scouting models and the right to appoint a couple of mates to assist me, then I swear we'd win the lot lol

 

[Jreverton1]

Not always. But yes I agree.

In this case XG just backs up the obvious that we are not threatening one little bit.

But what XG is really important for is seeing who outperforms it. The best teams score 2 goals from 0.7 XG. The best keepers keep a clean sheet off 2.5 xg. Ideally you want a high XG but also to outperform. We have a diabolical one and are still under performing both offensively and scarily, at the back. Spurs XG was 3.6, we conceded 4....

Not sure what any of this means but I guess it can't be good...

 

[ToffeeTim]

Not sure what any of this means but I guess it can't be good...

It's horrific.

 

[Jreverton1]

It's horrific.

I feel much better now.

 

[Jreverton1]

Does anybody know what we are trying to do, can anyone see a plan in what is happening.

Survive by the thinnest margin possible I think.

 

[royalbalou]

Cheers for giving me a bit of direction. I'd be lost without someone like you.

I'll heed your advice and never admire any non-Everton players again. From now on I'll be a proper blue just like you. I promise.

Don't mention it....any time