So, Aliens.....

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magicjuan said:
My disdain for religion is well documented on these boards, however, if you look at a lot of the ancient 'scriptures' and texts with a 'scientific' perspective they can be interpreted quite differently. A lot of the intent and meaning has been completely lost in translation, accidental and deliberate.
We think our scientific explanations are sacrosanct because we are limited by a 'scientific rationality' that has borders and parameters that measure and 'prove' within the confines of that system, it limits imagination.
By the opposing rationale the use of imagination, allegory, tale and wonder used by the ancients to explain and describe events we are yet to discover has its own real validity. This arrogance of ours, developed with each conquest of nature, has forced us to create a world as alien to theirs as theirs is to ours.

God is a word. Hijacked by a system and used to create a hierarchy. We think of God as human like in form, but depending on which history you read the word used was Elohim, Gods, plural. In their image was man created. Completely different perspective.
Replace the word God with 'nature' again it's a difference we won't accept yet science uses it to explain and exploit the fear of 'god' we carry to prop up and maintain a system that provides the science community with comfort.
We don't 'know' anything. Nada. Zip. Zilch. Not for certain.

Hit religious people with facts and they dismiss them because of their faith. Do likewise to the scientific community and guess what? They dismiss it as irrational. Go figure :)
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Climate change.......a scientific religion.......
 

Deffo, the proof is out there on the web if you look hard enough, they have been mating with our women for years.

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My view is that they almost certainly do. I've personally seen something completely inexplicable when I was about 11 (a light in the sky changing direction and speeds at impossible rates before zooming off), and I know a few people not prone to BS that have stories to tell also.

The way I see it, the "famous" reports are often hoaxes and reported by self-publicists, and the net result of that is that "normal" people who have these experiences keep it quiet.

I'm not as sure that what we'd identify as aliens exist, as in "little green men" and such. I think we identify life in such a way that we can't imagine intelligent life taking any other form.

Mathematically, I think other lifeforms simply have to exist. For our planet to be the only one to support life out of the almost infinite number of similar rocks in this universe is irrational.
 
magicjuan said:
My disdain for religion is well documented on these boards, however, if you look at a lot of the ancient 'scriptures' and texts with a 'scientific' perspective they can be interpreted quite differently. A lot of the intent and meaning has been completely lost in translation, accidental and deliberate.
We think our scientific explanations are sacrosanct because we are limited by a 'scientific rationality' that has borders and parameters that measure and 'prove' within the confines of that system, it limits imagination.
By the opposing rationale the use of imagination, allegory, tale and wonder used by the ancients to explain and describe events we are yet to discover has its own real validity. This arrogance of ours, developed with each conquest of nature, has forced us to create a world as alien to theirs as theirs is to ours.

God is a word. Hijacked by a system and used to create a hierarchy. We think of God as human like in form, but depending on which history you read the word used was Elohim, Gods, plural. In their image was man created. Completely different perspective.
Replace the word God with 'nature' again it's a difference we won't accept yet science uses it to explain and exploit the fear of 'god' we carry to prop up and maintain a system that provides the science community with comfort.
We don't 'know' anything. Nada. Zip. Zilch. Not for certain.

Hit religious people with facts and they dismiss them because of their faith. Do likewise to the scientific community and guess what? They dismiss it as irrational. Go figure :)
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I find religion and science to be two things ultimately trying to find the same thing but in wildly divergent ways. They're both seeking the ultimate answer.

I find all religions incredibly stupid myself, but that doesn't mean I don't think a "God" of some sort doesn't exist; only that I don't think humans will ever know the truth of it, and probably rightly so.

But that's probably a discussion for another thread!
 


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