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Wat Tyler said:
Couldn’t agree more, if you have a good voice, does that mean you know more about the music business than people who have a crap voice?
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Well, I work in the music industry and have for a very long time but yes - a professional artist will be able to talk about the pressures of touring better than me.

Hate to break it to you mate but a professional footballer who has won titles has a much more interesting opinion than you, me or Mark Pembridge.

I haven't said playing at the top level is the start and end point, but for me it's the start point. You then assess all the other credentials needed.
 
GrandOldTeam said:
Well, I work in the music industry and have for a very long time but yes - a professional artist will be able to talk about the pressures of touring better than me.

Hate to break it to you mate but a professional footballer who has won titles has a much more interesting opinion than you, me or Mark Pembridge.

I haven't said playing at the top level is the start and end point, but for me it's the start point. You then assess all the other credentials needed.
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The singer will be know more about one aspect of it yes, but without knowing what you do, I’d imagine that there’s a lot of things that you know about the business that they don’t.

Ultimately, we are talking football. Do the top players have more experience, and interesting anecdotes than someone who spent their career in the Championship? Of course they do. But is there an emphasis placed on dull players who have had PL careers? (usually at a high profile club, the RS got loads of them permeating the airwaves) Definitely.

With regards to their expertise, some of them are genuinely insightful. But not most in my opinion. You only have to look at that video someone has just posted to see all of them On Sky pretty much calling De Bruyne a fairly average midfielder when City bought him. They have big blind spots to other leagues, anyone who seen him for Wolfsburg knew he was the real deal, that wasn’t like City got lucky, they spent £50m on an already quality player.
 
Wat Tyler said:
The singer will be know more about one aspect of it yes, but without knowing what you do, I’d imagine that there’s a lot of things that you know about the business that they don’t.

Ultimately, we are talking football. Do the top players have more experience, and interesting anecdotes than someone who spent their career in the Championship? Of course they do. But is there an emphasis placed on dull players who have had PL careers? (usually at a high profile club, the RS got loads of them permeating the airwaves) Definitely.

With regards to their expertise, some of them are genuinely insightful. But not most in my opinion. You only have to look at that video someone has just posted to see all of them On Sky pretty much calling De Bruyne a fairly average midfielder when City bought him. They have big blind spots to other leagues, anyone who seen him for Wolfsburg knew he was the real deal, that wasn’t like City got lucky, they spent £50m on an already quality player.
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Any World Cup, Champions League or FA Cup final broadcast will always have expert level punditry, a huge part of that expertise is experience and that experience is built from, well, you know - experience. That experience is often playing the game (or managing) at the highest level - who better to talk about the World Cup than someone who has won it?

The same is true in Athletics, Basketball, Tennis - every sport. The vast majority of punditry in any sport have personal experience of performing at the highest level.

Who would you rather sit down and talk football with? Carlo Ancelotti, or ;

ClausThomsen said:
Don't agree with the top level thing at all. You don't need to have played top level to analyse and explain a match. There's a 1001 lower league coaches who have a better grasp on the tactical side of the game and what players are doing than most internationals.
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It's the same principle.

I've given examples when it doesn't work (Thierry Henry), being an ex-pro who performed at the highest level doesn't mean their opinion is gospel or 100% right - it's sport, nobody is infallible or it would be boring - take Keane's an Neville's management careers - it just gives them an edge.
 
GrandOldTeam said:
Any World Cup, Champions League or FA Cup final broadcast will always have expert level punditry, a huge part of that expertise is experience and that experience is built from, well, you know - experience. That experience is often playing the game (or managing) at the highest level - who better to talk about the World Cup than someone who has won it?

The same is true in Athletics, Basketball, Tennis - every sport. The vast majority of punditry in any sport have personal experience of performing at the highest level.

Who would you rather sit down and talk football with? Carlo Ancelotti, or ;



It's the same principle.

I've given examples when it doesn't work (Thierry Henry), being an ex-pro who performed at the highest level doesn't mean their opinion is gospel or 100% right - it's sport, nobody is infallible or it would be boring - take Keane's an Neville's management careers - it just gives them an edge.
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It depends on what the pundit is there to do. If a game is on then I'd be more interested in what someone who actually watches a lot of the players and teams involved has to say than someone who works the circuit based on the fact they were part of a World Cup winning side 14 years ago.

I like Gary Neville as a pundit but who would know more about certain aspects of football? Failed manager Gary Neville or moderately successful manager Tony Pulis? The vast majority of football matches aren't finals and title deciders - they're ordinary league games between non-elite clubs with 3 points at stake.

And if I wanted to watch someone describe what it's like winning a WC. Then sure, bring on the WC winner.
 
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Don't agree with the top level thing at all. You don't need to have played top level to analyse and explain a match. There's a 1001 lower league coaches who have a better grasp on the tactical side of the game and what players are doing than most internationals.

The sentiment that top flight footballers understand the game better than anyone else is spouted most often by former internationals who as pundits have nothing factual to back up their opinions with.

Great players don't always make great managers - or even semi-competent managers. They're different jobs and it's the same for punditry.
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If anythibg top top players probably are less likely to make good pundits. They have natural ability so dont have to discect the game
 
GrandOldTeam said:
Pundits for me should have played at the very highest level as a minimum - preferably in recent years.

They also should be clear and easy to understand.

Their gender, sex, nationality, race etc shouldn't come into it.
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Clever way to rule out us filthy Irish and sounding woke at the same time. ;)
 
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