Silva must go

[Carlito]

There is a lot of sense in this. Brands needs to be constantly evaluating managers who would suit the players bought. You are right this now probably needs tone stepped up a little.

Alongside that managers on a 3 year deal really need to perform in the 2nd year. If it becomes clear he hasn't done enough to earn a new contract, then there's little option but to move them on come the summer.

I'd also say, there's little point in repeating the Koeman situation where you sack someone mid season without a replacement. However how we hire and fire managers really needs looking at.

I don't expect miracles out of Brands, but I would be very unimpressed if Everton were caught flat-footed in between managers on his watch. A repeat of the situation that led to Allardyce's appointment would be unforgivable.

 

[riddick]

Course it does mate, he needs to stop this zonal marking rubbish, and obviously what formation is what etc instead of gung po when we’re behind

You know, btw, that's not going to happen, toothy? He's not going to change. We had people from Watford, Hull and even Estoril come here and say that. He is going to do what he's done and nothing is going to change his mind.

And that's what your are saying to "give him time" but he needs to change things? A guy who WON'T change things?

 

[blue to the bone]

I think he has until the international break.
Sheffield Wednesday, city and Burnley.
Needs 2 wins .

 

[ForeverBlue92]

3 of the top 6 are Leicester, West Ham and Bournemouth.

Had we had a good manager we would have got top 4 this year make no mistake.

What a wasted opportunity to qualify for the Champions League.

This clubs a disgrace.

 

[matty1878]

You know, btw, that's not going to happen, toothy? He's not going to change. We had people from Watford, Hull and even Estoril come here and say that. He is going to do what he's done and nothing is going to change his mind.

And that's what your are saying to "give him time" but he needs to change things? A guy who WON'T change things?

Yep he needs until at least Christmas regardless

 

[Toast]

I think he has until the international break.
Sheffield Wednesday, city and Burnley.
Needs 2 wins .

I can tell you now that if we zonal mark against that team of Burnley grocks were get beat 2 or 3.

 

[smileychap]

Silva isn't good enough, and muddled signings are also partly to blame.

1. The 'Sigurdsson' era has hardly ever hit the high notes
2. Morgan is not a player to give the team a platform
3. We've got no decent CF bring other players forward

These are legacy issues, but I also can't see any method in Silva's approach. his body lanauage and English are both sh*te, Poch had better even when he was still faking it with his translator.

 

[JJK]

I can tell you now that if we zonal mark against that team of Burnley grocks were get beat 2 or 3.

Wednesday will do us over too.

 

[blue to the bone]

I can tell you now that if we zonal mark against that team of Burnley grocks were get beat 2 or 3.

Played it last season and beat them 2 nil.
The system ain't wrong the players are .

 

[alvinh]

What about SILVA makes you think he is "the man", because the only answer I keep seeing is "you can't keep sacking managers" which is just stupid. Yes, you can if you realize they are not up to where you want to be. Sticking with a manager who is massively underperforming (sunk cost fallacy btw) for the sake of it is just is just idiotic.

You can keep sacking managers but there's a cost in doing so. Pay off the manager, his assistants etc. Pay the compensation for the next guy and all his staff. Sell off the players that don't fit the new regime and buy the new ones that, hopefully, do. All of this costs more if you sack mid season.

You also have another's cost, which is that if you get the reputation for pulling the trigger too quickly, some managers won't consider working for you. You reduce your attractiveness to the guys that want to build a long term project, which is surely what we want too?

 

[riddick]

You can keep sacking managers but there's a cost in doing so. Pay off the manager, his assistants etc. Pay the compensation for the next guy and all his staff. Sell off the players that don't fit the new regime and buy the new ones that, hopefully, do. All of this costs more if you sack mid season.

You also have another's cost, which is that if you get the reputation for pulling the trigger too quickly, some managers won't consider working for you. You reduce your attractiveness to the guys that want to build a long term project, which is surely what we want too?

Didn't put Klopp, the Bundesliga winning and champions league finalist, from going to Liverpool.

Not sacking for the sake of "we can't keep sacking" is just stupid.

 

[brieverton]

It's a difficult balancing act, and with the season still in its infancy. I don't expect any sacking.

The fairly well established criteria seem to be a winless run that extends over 2 months or so, and/or a threat of relegation.

The primary consideration if Brands decides enough is enough, is that a replacement is all but tied up.

He should have his eyes peeled either way, but things might stabilise then.

The more quick fire managers we have, the more reputational damage we do to ourselves within the field of managers we hope to attract.

If he can ride out this storm but fail to make Europe, then that's the likely time to do something.

 

[alvinh]

Didn't put Klopp, the Bundesliga winning and champions league finalist, from going to Liverpool.

Not sacking for the sake of "we can't keep sacking" is just stupid.

How many managers have Liverpool had in the past ten years?

Have they given each of their managers a decent amount of time to implement a plan?

Those are the questions someone like Klopp would probably be asking prior to taking the job.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

You can keep sacking managers but there's a cost in doing so. Pay off the manager, his assistants etc. Pay the compensation for the next guy and all his staff. Sell off the players that don't fit the new regime and buy the new ones that, hopefully, do. All of this costs more if you sack mid season.

You also have another's cost, which is that if you get the reputation for pulling the trigger too quickly, some managers won't consider working for you. You reduce your attractiveness to the guys that want to build a long term project, which is surely what we want too?

Sorry mate thats complete rubbish.

Work out the cost of finishing 6/7th to say 14th where we are now and its alot more than paying off Silva. Also work out the cost of spending £100 million a year on players being coached incorrectly and compare that to appointing a manager who can take said players up the table/another level.

Clubs like Watford and Leicester (who have sacked more managers than us) dont seem to struggle appointing new ones neither do clubs like Chelsea.

 

[hktoffee]

3 of the top 6 are Leicester, West Ham and Bournemouth.

Had we had a good manager we would have got top 4 this year make no mistake.

What a wasted opportunity to qualify for the Champions League.

This clubs a disgrace.

Dreadful results given the oppositions we played in the first 6 games. We should have like 12 points minimum out of those fixtures.