Should we be grooming a long term succesor to Moyes?

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

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Ever see them in a room together?

 

[Bluepablo]

The best person for the job should get it be that internal or external.

An internal appointment though, with Moyes in the background would be a recipe for disaster.

 

[ClausThomsen]

Nope.

Having a 'successor' looming in the background is a distraction. It instantly undermines the authority of the incumbent who becomes more or less a dead man walking.

Managers should be left to concentrate on their job, not asked to groom their successor.

 

[Dario Terracotta]

Christ I'm only just getting over the points deductions without us getting involved in that sort of stuff

 

[Bedfordblue]

Personally I don’t think it’s accurate to say Klopp succeeded due to cult of personality. He was a brilliant coach.

Not saying that, what I’m saying is he had a big personality to go with his coaching ability that suited the club.
Walker did well at Norwich but was a disgrace here.
Edam head did well at Southampton but had the wrong personality for here.
Benitez, very successful coach / manger, not right for here.
Lampard had the personality but not the ability.

Of course the coach / manager needs to be capable, but the personality has to be right / big too.

 

[Street end man]

Ever see them in a room together?

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No but there was a metal detector under Bainsies seat on Saturday night

 

[Andyramone]

No

 

[COYBL25]

THIS. Bring on the Baines.


Edit: remembered Dave's hatred of LB. Maybe not.

 

[Eggs]

…..one of the U8s, another 20 years of Moyes is a good idea

Thing is about nonsense threads like this is a good coach isn’t necessary going to be a good manager. We tried it and it failed with Colin Harvey.

 

[Simon Buttle]

The best person for the job should get it be that internal or external.

An internal appointment though, with Moyes in the background would be a recipe for disaster.

Just look at United these last few years with whiskey nose still hovering about in the background. There are a string of stories about how he still sticks his two pence worth in whether its wanted or not. I agree its not an idea Id warm too tbh.

 

[Gwladys St. Glory]

In my dream world it's a Baines/Carsley supercombo...who does/is what, I don't know.

 

[barneygumble]

We spent years being patters to ex players.

Ferguson outlasted 6 managers and had 3 caretaker stints.

Some lads, who had some actually learning curves, I didnt mind like Jose Baxter because that helps younger lads.

Tony Grant, Jeffers, Phil Jevons (just googled and hes even came back),James Vaughan just some i can recall.

If theyre good enough great, go cut your teeth, show your credentials and have a successful career, if it happens that Everton comes available and theyre a good fit, then great.

Not a salty response, id much rather we spent our resources getting best managers available rather than letting them fly the nest, as our managerial position isnt available.

 

[Blue peter]

Get the club / team and recruitment infrastructure right, and then managers can be brought through without the significant experience we would normally want.

 

[Dymak]

Arteta, eventually.

 

[Efcjake]

Someone from the managerial succession thread?