Sean Dyche

[canuckblue]

Finally got round to listening to this and picked out this part as my favourite (33:50 onwards)

"So I spoke to the club to be fair to them, well to Kev Thelwell, I had an honest chat with him and said look I can smell that this is changing, I'm not doing two years of graft here for this to go the wrong way. I said no chance. So we're leaving this in good shape, remember they're outside of the bottom zone, the team are in good shape physically."

Since when has giving up on us 1 point out of the relegation zone leaving us in good shape, Sean???

And you also didn't leave us - you waited for a pay off.

You just didn't want another relegation on your CV you arsehole.

More like.

 

[Efcjake]

Finally got round to listening to this and picked out this part as my favourite (33:50 onwards)

"So I spoke to the club to be fair to them, well to Kev Thelwell, I had an honest chat with him and said look I can smell that this is changing, I'm not doing two years of graft here for this to go the wrong way. I said no chance. So we're leaving this in good shape, remember they're outside of the bottom zone, the team are in good shape physically."

Since when has giving up on us 1 point out of the relegation zone leaving us in good shape, Sean???

And you also didn't leave us - you waited for a pay off.

You just didn't want a relegation on your CV you arsehole.

Begged for a pay off when he was actually quitting.

How anyone worships him is beyond me.

He didn't give a toss what he was leaving us to face when he walked away. He was only caring about number one.

 

[DualityNSNO]

Dyche said after the defeat once TFG come in that the team don't listen/his methods no longer work - the team knew he was off in a few months no matter what.

They didn't work well for about a year, but then TFG came in and suddenly everything was upside-down?

Yeah okay.

 

[Efcjake]

You have to admit when the gig is up.

In any walk of life, if the team I'm managing stopped listening to me, then yes - I'd leave/be placed on gardening leave.

Dyche said after the defeat once TFG come in that the team don't listen/his methods no longer work - the team knew he was off in a few months no matter what.

Like this summer, the owners either have to back Moyes, or change him. You can't have a manager with months on his contract.



I think Dyche definitely recommended him, but it was a foregone anyway - shared the view on here once Roma went for Ranieri that it would be Moyes if Dyche goes. Moyes couldn't talk Dyche up enough for the first month. Even I was like 'alright, calm down'



Indeed.

I get people saying he didn't resign, but lets be realistic here - he wanted the pay off. All considered, he deserved it - Glasner tried to do the same but Palace didn't need to blink.

Why did they stop listening to him though? If he was the super manager he claims to be then why wasn't everyone buying in?

Does it have anything to do with the fact that he took the team from midtable (if you ignore the point deductions, something I see thrown around as something to credit him with as an achievement) back to a relegation fight?

I am shocked the team wasn't listening to a fella who managed 3 wins in 19 matches. No, obviously it was because of his contract situation.

Maybe if he was actually capable of coaching the team to better than a relegation fight level of quality he and the squad wouldn't have been expecting his contract not to be renewed and they might have listened.


If the Friedkin's had any stones about them they wouldn't have waited for him to come begging to be paid off and would have proactively sacked him.

 

[Efcjake]

They didn't work well for about a year, but then TFG came in and suddenly everything was upside-down?

Yeah okay.

It's utter woke nonsense mate

 

[Exeter_Gently]

One final banger quote from the interview. He has spent his life trying to tell the world of football he is more than just the new Big Sam and then after 50 minutes of Christian Purslow licking his bumhole clean he ends with this:

"Tell you one thing, keep your phone on around second week of October, 'cause when a club gets in trouble, I promise you're the guy getting the first phonecall."

Thanks Christian, for just reiterating he is just the new Big Sam.

Thats the one thing I took away from that interview,was that Christian Purslow is an absolute worm.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

They didn't work well for about a year, but then TFG came in and suddenly everything was upside-down?

Yeah okay.

We finished his only full season really well;



... then the wheels come off.

It's football, it happens. It doesn't negate the job he did to keep us up in the months he arrived, and then his full season.

New owners coming in meant a change of manager was actually possible.

I was like a stuck record saying it - until new owners come in, there was never going to be a change. He was then gone within weeks, it would have been day one had it not been for;

If the Friedkin's had any stones about them they wouldn't have waited for him to come begging to be paid off and would have proactively sacked him.

Their preferred choice wasn't available until the summer.

Dyche forced the issue, and walla.

David Moyes.

 

[matty1878]

We finished his only full season really well;

View attachment 346262

... then the wheels come off.

It's football, it happens. It doesn't negate the job he did to keep us up in the months he arrived, and then his full season.

New owners coming in meant a change of manager was actually possible.

I was like a stuck record saying it - until new owners come in, there was never going to be a change. He was then gone within weeks, it would have been day one had it not been for;



Their preferred choice wasn't available until the summer.

Dyche forced the issue, and walla.

David Moyes.

we don’t and won’t know who it was!

 

[DualityNSNO]

We finished his only full season really well;

... then the wheels come off.

It's football, it happens. It doesn't negate the job he did to keep us up in the months he arrived, and then his full season.

New owners coming in meant a change of manager was actually possible.

I was like a stuck record saying it - until new owners come in, there was never going to be a change. He was then gone within weeks, it would have been day one had it not been for;

Ah so it was okay to forfeit half a season or more and pretend it's working (it wasn't), only to say in every outlet that would take him that it was all him about everything, even down to hiring Moyes?

The plot thickens.

Dyche forced the issue, and walla.

voila* x

 

[Efcjake]

We finished his only full season really well;

View attachment 346262

... then the wheels come off.

It's football, it happens. It doesn't negate the job he did to keep us up in the months he arrived, and then his full season.

New owners coming in meant a change of manager was actually possible.

I was like a stuck record saying it - until new owners come in, there was never going to be a change. He was then gone within weeks, it would have been day one had it not been for;



Their preferred choice wasn't available until the summer.

Dyche forced the issue, and walla.

David Moyes.

It doesn't negate the job he did to keep us up the first two seasons. I was actually happy with what he was able to accomplish those first two years.

Its that last year that soured me and lots of others. Plenty want to credit him with a midtable finish for the second season, fair enough, but if you give him that then you have to say it went to pot in the last season.

I wouldn't give any manager who took a midtable team to 3 wins in 19 a new contract.

I would suggest it was the horrific footy and results that led to the team to stop listening rather than his contract status.

The new owners came in and didn't change anything. He BEGGED to be sacked and paid off, they didn't make the decision.

Had he actually won some matches in the first half of that season its possible the first thing the Friedkin's would do would be to give him a new contract.

The only reason he isn't Everton manager today is because of his own failings.

 

[MikeH72]

Also: "Everton, I did the right thing there [leaving] and it's flourished ever since. Good decision from me. Fact."

Jesus wept he needs to go into politics with all this spin and delusion.

I agree with him, we definitely have flourished since he left.

 

[Walken]

Bit bizarre for the same group of posters to obsessively post about dyche and accuse others of obsession

 

[DualityNSNO]

I agree with him, we definitely have flourished since he left.

Maybe we'd have flourished even more if he'd left earlier.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Ah so it was okay to forfeit half a season or more and pretend it's working (it wasn't), only to say in every outlet that would take him that it was all him about everything, even down to hiring Moyes?

The plot thickens.

voila* x

Well, no - it was working until it wasn't being the point.

And I was swearing to god.

It doesn't negate the job he did to keep us up the first two seasons. I was actually happy with what he was able to accomplish those first two years.

Its that last year that soured me and lots of others. Plenty want to credit him with a midtable finish for the second season, fair enough, but if you give him that then you have to say it went to pot in the last season.

Never seen anyone dispute that.

Bit bizarre for the same group of posters to obsessively post about dyche and accuse others of obsession

?

These posts are the worse. Snidey pointless posts without any conviction. Wimp.

 

[DualityNSNO]

Well, no - it was working until it wasn't being the point.

And I was swearing to god.

Didn't mean to belittle the religiousness mate, soz x

It wasn't working for a while and we went a long time with it not working too well - in the screenshot you posted above, we can look at the previous 3 and a bit months or so of it not working at all. Glad we picked it up for the last 5-6 games, but the wheels were deflated and were about to wobble off well before he 100% gave up.