No mate. It’s all everyone else’s fault.
Sean Dyche
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No mate. It’s all everyone else’s fault.
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His managerial career record would look a lot better if it had a few wins in it…
Finally got round to listening to this and picked out this part as my favourite (33:50 onwards)
"So I spoke to the club to be fair to them, well to Kev Thelwell, I had an honest chat with him and said look I can smell that this is changing, I'm not doing two years of graft here for this to go the wrong way. I said no chance. So we're leaving this in good shape, remember they're outside of the bottom zone, the team are in good shape physically."
Since when has giving up on us 1 point out of the relegation zone leaving us in good shape, Sean???
And you also didn't leave us - you waited for a pay off.
You just didn't want a relegation on your CV you arsehole.
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If I was him, I'd have done the same thing. So that makes me an arsehole.
Managers have a shelf life, its when not if things go stale and it stopped working for him.
I always shared a view that he was going nowhere until new owners come in, when that happened, after the first defeat under those owners, when he admitted players stopped listening that he had to go.
I felt his job was to keep our heads above water until we got new owners. He did that, much better than I expected.
Also: "Everton, I did the right thing there [leaving] and it's flourished ever since. Good decision from me. Fact."
Jesus wept he needs to go into politics with all this spin and delusion.
You'd give up on doing your job to try and protect your CV of a relegation?
Then yeh, arsehole too.
Can acknowledge the job he did and the difficult circumstances to wade through.
The boris johnson/liz truss clown act and bare faced lies that come as part of the same package is why he has garnered so much ill will. Call it like it is or don't call it at all. And snarky comments about flavoured water are incredibly small time, especially in light of demanding his relegation survival bonus and then trying to take credit for appointing Moyes.
He actually did us a favour.
Not knowingly*.
"I was absolutely wank on purpose lads, so that you could get Moyes back and go for Europe. You're welcome."
You have to admit when the gig is up.
In any walk of life, if the team I'm managing stopped listening to me, then yes - I'd leave/be placed on gardening leave.
Dyche said after the defeat once TFG come in that the team don't listen/his methods no longer work - the team knew he was off in a few months no matter what.
Like this summer, the owners either have to back Moyes, or change him. You can't have a manager with months on his contract.
I think Dyche definitely recommended him, but it was a foregone anyway - shared the view on here once Roma went for Ranieri that it would be Moyes if Dyche goes. Moyes couldn't talk Dyche up enough for the first month. Even I was like 'alright, calm down'
Indeed.
I get people saying he didn't resign, but lets be realistic here - he wanted the pay off. All considered, he deserved it - Glasner tried to do the same but Palace didn't need to blink.
One final banger quote from the interview. He has spent his life trying to tell the world of football he is more than just the new Big Sam and then after 50 minutes of Christian Purslow licking his bumhole clean he ends with this:
"Tell you one thing, keep your phone on around second week of October, 'cause when a club gets in trouble, I promise you're the guy getting the first phonecall."
Thanks Christian, for just reiterating he is just the new Big Sam.
"Tell you one thing, keep your phone on around second week of October, 'cause when a club gets in trouble, I promise you're the guy getting the first phonecall."
Thanks Christian, for just reiterating he is just the new Big Sam.
"Dour Davey" wasn't daft enough to turn up full of doom and gloom then point the finger immediately at the previous manager, it wasn't going to get him onside with the Dyche signings. The move away from the Dyche program was facilitated by friendly faces in the background, namely Coleman and Baines. As the death grip of relegation was uncoiled, we got a better atmosphere, and the players were less stifled. We packed Goodison off with a few more memories and here we are.
Note: Although it has only been 14 months returned, it does feel a lot longer under Moyes pt II.
He went over the top though, he'd proactively talk the job Dyche did, unprompted - months afterwards too.
It wasn't just to set the tone/manage expectations either.
I must have been in my post match coma's. It had been the culmination of a painful few years. Glad I didn't end up here...
