Marius57
Player Valuation: £70m
Committing all those players to attack coincided with us (starting from the first manager post Moyes who you idolise) in us becoming a regular bottom half and relegation scrapping club.
Weird if that’s what you are yearning for.
Also, just for info, Moyes last season with us had a higher xG than any manager that followed him.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Moyes won the xG title.
The quality of our football under Martinez was levels above what Moyes ever produced. I dont think there's anyone who'd deny that in all seriousness.
And I'm not sure what Martinez in his three seasons here where we attained our best ever season points-wise, reached 2 domestic cup SFs, a last 16 in the EL and two mid table finishes had to do with lowering standards from Moyes' dismal and fruitless 11 year spell here.
Moyes won the xG title.
The quality of our football under Martinez was levels above what Moyes ever produced. I dont think there's anyone who'd deny that in all seriousness.
And I'm not sure what Martinez in his three seasons here where we attained our best ever season points-wise, reached 2 domestic cup SFs, a last 16 in the EL and two mid table finishes had to do with lowering standards from Moyes' dismal and fruitless 11 year spell here.
Coleman thread, don't ruin another thread with your unhealthy obsessions with Martinez and Moyes.
“The culture was not as bad as it might have been viewed externally,” Moyes explains. “There were players here who fit the Everton DNA. Seamus was driving that. I could give you numerous examples of Seamus really getting into the boys on the training pitch, demanding they meet certain standards and digging them out if they didn’t.
“I saw the characters here to have a real go, not just at getting away from trouble last season, but to build on it this season. But if you ask me to name someone who has kept what we know as Everton going over the last few years, it’s Seamus.”
“I saw the characters here to have a real go, not just at getting away from trouble last season, but to build on it this season. But if you ask me to name someone who has kept what we know as Everton going over the last few years, it’s Seamus.”
Seamus Coleman: the heartbeat and future Manager of our Club.
PhoenixIreland
Player Valuation: £1.5m
'certain standards' - and yet we never won a damn thing in all that time!“The culture was not as bad as it might have been viewed externally,” Moyes explains. “There were players here who fit the Everton DNA. Seamus was driving that. I could give you numerous examples of Seamus really getting into the boys on the training pitch, demanding they meet certain standards and digging them out if they didn’t.
“I saw the characters here to have a real go, not just at getting away from trouble last season, but to build on it this season. But if you ask me to name someone who has kept what we know as Everton going over the last few years, it’s Seamus.”
Sooner this guy is gone the better, a new broom is what is needed.
Did you ever look at some of the dross on those Everton teams?
PhoenixIreland
Player Valuation: £1.5m
Yeah, including him.
Ther are other standards than just winning. We all want players that put 100% effort in, every game.
Coleman is somebody who did that, and that is obviously the standards Moyes is talking about, but I suspect you know that.
Sam0697
Player Valuation: £950k
I remember when we got a 'real' winner in to enforce high standards in the dressing room and be a leader within the squad. He had plenty of experience winning trophies, and was actually a bit younger than Coleman so surely would be around for years. Fabian Delph.
He retired 4 years ago, disliked by just about everyone in football. Coleman is still going, and is constantly talked up as a great captain and guy to have around the club.
Top player, top man; I hope Seamus Coleman is given some sort of role at the club once his Everton career comes to an end.
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