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I am very fond of Kelly's Hotel in Rosslare, Co. Wexford.

For about thirteen years staring round about turn of t' century I went there the first week in August.

Always arriving in the Saturday before the August Bank Holiday Monday.

We would have picked up a car at either Belfast or Dublin airport and proceed in a southerly direction.

Traffic flow was generally fine until one reached an accursed town name of Gorey.

On that Bank Holiday weekend, seemingly half the people in Ireland were heading for the ferries in Rosslare or the golden sands of Tramore in Co. Waterford.

The result was a terrible logjam in Gorey, Co. Wexford :mad:

It was not unusual to spend ninety minutes crawling through that darned town.

I often wished the Russians would nuke the blooming place :(

(not whilst I was crawling through it, mind :blush:)

I even contemplated writing that nice Mr. Putin and requesting such a drastic course of action.

However, the Dublin junta came up with a better idea.

They built a by-pass round Gorey and my passage south was considerably eased ;)

Until I reached Enniscorthy :(

Now, Mr. Putin.......we need to talk about Enniscorthy, Co. Wexford :cool:

Good heavens, there's a whole lotta nuking being planned :eek:
 
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/aberdeen-receiving-unfair-criticism-after-9367462

Excellent article







Aberdeen deserve credit for what they are doing, not criticism.

The fallout from the Betfred Cup Final last Sunday has been fascinating.

The Dons were well beaten by Celtic – no one can argue with that. It was a comprehensive 3-0 defeat.

But some of the flak aimed in their direction since they trooped out of the National Stadium with losers’ medals has been frankly preposterous.

Celtic have some players in their squad earning in excess of £30,000 a week. That’s at least six times what you’ll take home at Pittodrie.

It’s the same as the majority of Barcelona’s top stars who came to Parkhead four days earlier get six times as much as Celtic’s top earners.

Theoretically that means, as Aberdeen chairman Stewart Milne claimed, we should really be comparing the gulf between Celtic and Aberdeen in the same way as we view the gulf between Barca and Celtic.

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Aberdeen chairman Stewart Milne
Now it’s not that big, we all know that. But to be hammering Aberdeen for being soundly beaten by Celtic is a bit like slagging off your old man for losing to Rory McIlroy at golf.

You can argue, correctly as Willie Miller has done, that the Dons made it too easy for Celtic.

They stood off them during the opening periods of the game and let Brendan Rodgers’s team dictate the tempo.

At no point did they slam in a few tackles to try to ruffle the champions up. Sports View is certainly not going to argue with one of the greatest players the club has ever had but Derek McInnes’s team tried that approach at Pittodrie a month earlier and it still didn’t work.

No one is saying McInnes is the greatest manager on earth. No one is saying his team are magnificent. No one is disputing the Dons boss has made some mistakes and the players have let themselves down on a couple of big occasions. If you are going to point fingers for specific instances, though, it’s important to give reasons.

If you look at big matches in the cup competitions, Aberdeen had a real setback when they lost a Scottish Cup semi-final 2-1 to St Johnstone in April 2014 after taking a 15th-minute lead.

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Celtic go into their famous huddle ahead of the Betfred Cup final while the Aberdeen team look on
They did the same thing against Dundee United in a League Cup semi-final the following season. There have been other cup setbacks in earlier rounds.

Among the supporters there are those who don’t understand why the manager makes some of his changes.

The use of Graeme Shinnie in midfield puzzles, as does the need to deploy Andrew Considine at left-back when McInnes makes such a decision.

Dropping Adam Rooney and James Maddison for October’s Premiership defeat to Celtic was hammered by his own fans yet he brought them back for the Cup Final at Hampden and it didn’t change anything.

The manager knows his players better than any one of us and the bottom line is that for every mistake on the pitch or in the dugout, there have been three good decisions and good displays.

McInnes’s team is young and vibrant when they turn it on. They go on winning runs and have brought supporters back into Pittodrie with an exciting brand of football. Ex-Aberdeen striker Charlie Nicholas said they have stagnated. How’s that?

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Managers Brendan Rodgers and Derek McInnes lead out their teams ahead of the Betfred Cup Final
They reached the first cup final of the season, got to within a missed penalty kick of the play-off round for the Europa League group stage and still look the best bet to finish closest to Celtic in the title race.

Sure there have been bad days but every club has them.

Instead of slaughtering Aberdeen we should be commending them for actually making a fist of things over the past three years.

The cynics who point out the Dons, for all the plaudits, have won the same number of trophies as Ross County and Inverness Caley Thistle in the past four years are being churlish.

While Rangers were languishing in the lower leagues McInnes’s team have been the only ones to even come close to having a proper go at Celtic in the title race.

Had Milne seen the possibility of history and handed McInnes a couple of extra bob last January when Ronny Deila’s team were on the ropes with their eyes glazed over, they might have upset the odds Buster Douglas-style and delivered a knockout punch to claim a title and go down in folklore.

They didn’t – but they have still been the second best. Aberdeen might be that again this season although given the comparative riches on offer at Ibrox that’s some going.

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Aberdeen manager Derek McInnes
You can talk all you like about Light Blues boss Mark Warburton not having the same funds as Celtic or finding his feet in the top league but McInnes could only dream of shelling out £1.8million for Joe Garner.

Rangers are above Aberdeen in the table but they have played two more games.

And if the Dons pull off a win at Ibrox on Saturday it will be another praiseworthy effort that puts them back in pole position to be best of the rest.

Best of the rest might not be good enough for some Aberdeen fans but that’s the way it is.

Spare us the Leicester guff. They won the Premier League title because the big clubs flopped for an entire season.

Whether you like McInnes or not, just look at the state of Aberdeen under the likes of Ebbe Skovdahl and ask yourself if the current criticism of him and his players is really justified.

Aberdeen fans should be very careful what they wish for.
 
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rangers-legend-graeme-souness-says-9375298

I don't particularly like Souness, but he's right about King and the unrealistic expectations. It could have been best for Rangers if he and Kennedy been successful in buying them



Graeme Souness insists Dave King’s failure to deliver the huge cash injection he promised at Rangers is compounding the misery for suffering supporters.

The Ibrox legend always felt Gers would be trailing Old Firm rivals Celtic – who are eight points clear having played three games fewer – and says King was wrong to build up the hopes of fans without backing it up.

Souness reckons that has made the current situation worse with Rangers facing the prospect of slipping to fourth if they follow up Wednesday’s 2-0 loss to Hearts with a defeat by Aberdeen.

The 63-year-old was part of a failed bid to win the keys to Ibrox in 2012 when he joined forces with Edinburgh businessman and former Sale Sharks owner Brian Kennedy after the club had hit rock bottom. Had they been successful, Souness insists their plan was to be completely honest with the fans and believes current chairman King is paying the price now for letting them down.

Speaking before leading his own takeover last year, King said: “The minimum – if we get lucky – is £30million and we will probably need £50m. That would be to compete with Celtic.

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Graeme Souness
“The Rangers strategy should be a simple thing. It is this – every year we have to compete with Celtic. I would say I would probably have to put in £30m of the £50m over the period of time.”

Asked if he could understand a more prudent approach given what Gers have gone through, Souness said: “Yes, but my understanding is the chairman saying he’s going to give money is where your problem lies.

“Where the problem arises for Rangers supporters now is if the owner has come out and said he’s going to put money in and he hasn’t, then he has caused himself a problem.

“If you make promises to football supporters it makes life doubly difficult if you don’t keep them.

“Along with Brian Kennedy we were very close, we actually thought we had it.

“There was going to be a hard sell, that’s one of the things we were going to say on day one.

“This is not going to be a short or easy road, there’s a long way to get it back anywhere near where you want it to be because you can’t spend money you don’t have. That was the message we’d have put across on day one and every day we needed to say it.

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Rangers manager Mark Warburton fumes on the Tynecastle touchline (Photo: SNS)
“The manager hasn’t been given any chance. They don’t have any money, that’s the bottom line.

“The lower leagues in England if you are talking about the Championship, Rangers can’t afford players in that league. I’d suggest they’d struggle to pay what’s in League One too.

“That’s where they are right now and that’s the handicap they have.

“You can’t look into a crystal ball but what you can say is if money is put on the table and you get half your signings right then you are going to be better next time around.

“If there is no money put on the table and you are buying the same types of players and that’s your market, then you won’t improve.

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“There is no coach out there that could take that group and make them into Barcelona. There’s no surprises with Rangers this season. Celtic winning 5-1 at Parkhead early in the season? Predictable. Rangers narrowly losing to them in the cup? Predictable.

“Hopefully they can go one better on Hogmanay when they play Celtic. Is it impossible? No. Is it likely? No. That’s reality for Rangers and their supporters.”

Souness believes now is the time for a huge reality check at Ibrox and defended Mark Warburton as pressure starts to build ahead of a huge month for the Rangers boss.

He thinks Warburton might look back on the Joey Barton bust-up and wonder if he could have handled it differently and claims the £1.8m spent on Joe Garner can’t be used as a stick to beat him with as even Sir Alex Ferguson got some signings wrong.

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Rangers manager Mark Warburton
Souness revolutionised Scottish football when he arrived at Gers from Sampdoria 30 years ago and signed top internationals from south of the border, including England captain Terry Butcher.

And when asked about his old club’s current situation, he said: “It has been predictable.

“Given where Rangers were shopping in the summer Celtic were always going to be stronger. The boss has had a lot to work with.

“He’s not been given much to work with when you are buying players from Accrington Stanley. I’m buying players from top English clubs when I’m there, it’s a million miles away from the job I had to the one today.

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“I’m buying the England captain and he’s buying a different level of player altogether. There’s no manager from Fergie down who gets them all right.

“Unfortunately some have not worked out but that’s football. It doesn’t work sometimes for different reasons. You get your judgement wrong, the player can’t deal with playing at a big club.

“You’ve taken them from a smaller club where they pick and choose when to give 100 per cent and brought them to a club where you must be bang at it every game. Teams you are up against treat it as their biggest game of the season.

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Rangers' Joey Barton during training in July
“None of this is a new argument but nobody gets them all right.

“Yeah, Joey Barton was a gamble but I was reassured. I worked with him at the Euros. I hadn’t met him but I worked with a guy who was knowledgeable about his football, had done his homework on Rangers and never stopped asking me questions about the club. He was determined to do well.

“I was taken aback. I was expecting to meet this wildcard but he wasn’t, he was sensible, knowledgeable and desperate to do well at Rangers.

“Without probably knowing it, he quickly realised how big a club Rangers are but it didn’t happen for him.

“I don’t know the circumstances, what was said or how it was said, so I can’t comment.

“But these things happen, not all signings work out. The manager will look back. I look back on many an occasion and wish I’d done something differently.

“Maybe Mark thinks that, you’d have to ask him. There’s always a way around a problem. When you are young sometimes you don’t make the right choice.

“Joey was a great player for Burnley last year, he was arguably their best player last season. It was sensible that if you could get him for nothing to take him, albeit he was on a big salary.”
 
Beith Juniors 0 v 6 Morton

Stroll in the park without getting out of 2nd gear, could easily have been double figures on a pitch with the worst slope I've ever seen. Won't be so easy against Falkirk in the next round.
 
http://www.themag.co.uk/2016/12/jou...ian-cathro-laughable-newcastle-united-hearts/

Boyd could be jumping the gun here in all honesty

His words seem very bitter tbh, almost a personal attack

I wonder if there's some history between them?

He's not the only one though , the former player Jamie Fullarton absolutely hammered Cathro and his personality on Sportsound last week whilst a few others have been less than glowing . Does seem he has either upset people or there is something or something lacking in his character .
 
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/aberdeen-receiving-unfair-criticism-after-9367462

Excellent article







Aberdeen deserve credit for what they are doing, not criticism.

The fallout from the Betfred Cup Final last Sunday has been fascinating.

The Dons were well beaten by Celtic – no one can argue with that. It was a comprehensive 3-0 defeat.

But some of the flak aimed in their direction since they trooped out of the National Stadium with losers’ medals has been frankly preposterous.

Celtic have some players in their squad earning in excess of £30,000 a week. That’s at least six times what you’ll take home at Pittodrie.

It’s the same as the majority of Barcelona’s top stars who came to Parkhead four days earlier get six times as much as Celtic’s top earners.

Theoretically that means, as Aberdeen chairman Stewart Milne claimed, we should really be comparing the gulf between Celtic and Aberdeen in the same way as we view the gulf between Barca and Celtic.

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Aberdeen chairman Stewart Milne
Now it’s not that big, we all know that. But to be hammering Aberdeen for being soundly beaten by Celtic is a bit like slagging off your old man for losing to Rory McIlroy at golf.

You can argue, correctly as Willie Miller has done, that the Dons made it too easy for Celtic.

They stood off them during the opening periods of the game and let Brendan Rodgers’s team dictate the tempo.

At no point did they slam in a few tackles to try to ruffle the champions up. Sports View is certainly not going to argue with one of the greatest players the club has ever had but Derek McInnes’s team tried that approach at Pittodrie a month earlier and it still didn’t work.

No one is saying McInnes is the greatest manager on earth. No one is saying his team are magnificent. No one is disputing the Dons boss has made some mistakes and the players have let themselves down on a couple of big occasions. If you are going to point fingers for specific instances, though, it’s important to give reasons.

If you look at big matches in the cup competitions, Aberdeen had a real setback when they lost a Scottish Cup semi-final 2-1 to St Johnstone in April 2014 after taking a 15th-minute lead.

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Celtic go into their famous huddle ahead of the Betfred Cup final while the Aberdeen team look on
They did the same thing against Dundee United in a League Cup semi-final the following season. There have been other cup setbacks in earlier rounds.

Among the supporters there are those who don’t understand why the manager makes some of his changes.

The use of Graeme Shinnie in midfield puzzles, as does the need to deploy Andrew Considine at left-back when McInnes makes such a decision.

Dropping Adam Rooney and James Maddison for October’s Premiership defeat to Celtic was hammered by his own fans yet he brought them back for the Cup Final at Hampden and it didn’t change anything.

The manager knows his players better than any one of us and the bottom line is that for every mistake on the pitch or in the dugout, there have been three good decisions and good displays.

McInnes’s team is young and vibrant when they turn it on. They go on winning runs and have brought supporters back into Pittodrie with an exciting brand of football. Ex-Aberdeen striker Charlie Nicholas said they have stagnated. How’s that?

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Managers Brendan Rodgers and Derek McInnes lead out their teams ahead of the Betfred Cup Final
They reached the first cup final of the season, got to within a missed penalty kick of the play-off round for the Europa League group stage and still look the best bet to finish closest to Celtic in the title race.

Sure there have been bad days but every club has them.

Instead of slaughtering Aberdeen we should be commending them for actually making a fist of things over the past three years.

The cynics who point out the Dons, for all the plaudits, have won the same number of trophies as Ross County and Inverness Caley Thistle in the past four years are being churlish.

While Rangers were languishing in the lower leagues McInnes’s team have been the only ones to even come close to having a proper go at Celtic in the title race.

Had Milne seen the possibility of history and handed McInnes a couple of extra bob last January when Ronny Deila’s team were on the ropes with their eyes glazed over, they might have upset the odds Buster Douglas-style and delivered a knockout punch to claim a title and go down in folklore.

They didn’t – but they have still been the second best. Aberdeen might be that again this season although given the comparative riches on offer at Ibrox that’s some going.

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Aberdeen manager Derek McInnes
You can talk all you like about Light Blues boss Mark Warburton not having the same funds as Celtic or finding his feet in the top league but McInnes could only dream of shelling out £1.8million for Joe Garner.

Rangers are above Aberdeen in the table but they have played two more games.

And if the Dons pull off a win at Ibrox on Saturday it will be another praiseworthy effort that puts them back in pole position to be best of the rest.

Best of the rest might not be good enough for some Aberdeen fans but that’s the way it is.

Spare us the Leicester guff. They won the Premier League title because the big clubs flopped for an entire season.

Whether you like McInnes or not, just look at the state of Aberdeen under the likes of Ebbe Skovdahl and ask yourself if the current criticism of him and his players is really justified.

Aberdeen fans should be very careful what they wish for.
Aberdeen will only play Celtic four times a season so beat the other dross and maybe the league should not be out of reach ( although this season it'll be over before Brenda's next dental check up )
Said this before but when Rangers were making their way back was the time to make a push , I mean Motherwell played in champions league qualifying games during that time.
When Rangers get back up to speed is it such a big ask of a team outside the 'big' two to win the league, I think Hearts nearly did one year .The pundits at the time agreed with Celtic and Rangers taking points of each other, that you could win the league without beating the old firm.
Anyway killie looking relegation certainties at pittodrie last night 5-1 dandys
 

I heard some crap about McInnes being under pressure, mental. He has done a great job there and he's got them back at the top end, competing for trophies. The way Aberdeen were going (not so long ago) they could easily have ended up relegated, like Hearts, Hibs and Dundee Utd in recent years. McInnes done a great job of steadying the ship and pushing them back in the right direction
 

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