Extremely nauseous reading your very very predictable middle of the road safe tosh...to me to you to me to you...
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You are of course right with the trajectory mate, i dont think he was first choice at all, nor was he mine, he has exceeded my expectations though not on performances but on results. Look i think there is mitigation there, he didnt assemble this team, he has had to approach the situation with a remit of results over performances given the predicament. I have sympathy for him in the footballing context and circumstances if im honest. The board may well sack hi, but i dont think it would be on the basis of performance, i think it would be on popularity and that isnt a good decsion making process in my opinion.
It all depends of how you look at stability, if the club wasnt changing a DOF, and football dept and changes at board room i would have a lower threshold to a change, fact is probably will. Its not just Allardyce its the whole coaching tam that has got a tune out of a very limited squad so from a stability point of view, i think it would be good for the club to have him see out his contract. I think the players like the regime. They have respond with results. I agree if he was here next season performances need to improve, i think he is a good recruiter so i wouldnt have a problem with him guiding us through the summer. Fans dont like him, i get that, that will lead to peaks and troughs but ultimately guided by progress, i dont see that being different to be honest. For me there is a dangerous trend at Everton of the club bending to fan will, which is fickle and boom and bust.
I agree on 20 month manager, and philosophy is important - DOF etc. We are getting a new one, which is why i think there needs to be stability in the manager. Im not a massive Allardyce fan and he wouldn't have been my first choice. But he has done a good job has exceeded my expectation in results and looking at what the clubs needs now, im not so sure its a change in manager.
To answer your question he wants to play solid, direct way of playing and i believe he would recruit on that basis, i thin he trying to play that way but is trying to play with players who are used to possession based football - that is what they were recruited for. I believe if he stays thats who he ill recruit players to play that way. Very much Moyes stuff IMO.
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Sorry to hear that mate! lol
Billy Dean
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It makes me sad and despondent for the future that many Evertonians think like this. We don’t deserve anything more than mediocrity
Thats only relative if mediocre is your opinion though.
The personal element comes from his arrogance towards any criticism, despite winning sweet fa in 25 years.
Of course one decision doesn't change anything overnight. But making a horribly unambitious choice and then sticking with it for the sake of a false sense of stability, is the true cop out.
I'd rather try and fail than settle for average. With Allardyce we will never improve. With Allardyce we won't even get closer to getting there. That's not acceptable to me. It's not a cop out.
We had 12 years of stability and it got us nowhere ultimately. Close at times but never any cigar. Stability is a nonsense argument when there is nothing left worth preserving.
Did you clap Kenwright?
What is your bottom line expectation with a new manager next year mate?
What is success and failure in real terms?
I got of on winding up the BU more.
European qualification and a trophy, or at least a lengthy run in one.
Thought so.
Sigh.....
A plan that isn't absolute short termism would see a lot more patience from the fanbase
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I hated him before he even came here Eggs, or at the very best had an intense dislike for the man. Not so much because of his football because I didn't think in a million years I'd have to endure it week in week out. But the man himself, his personality, his sense of entitlement and permanent chip on his shoulder. Even yesterday, he set the team up ultra defensively at home to a team who must have been nervous and have won 2 games in the last 22. But does he accept ANY responsibility for the poor performance?. No, he blames the two new lads coming into the team. He's an utter horror Eggs.
Right, pretty much bog standard then.
On the other i dont see need the need to vilify or hate anyone connected to the club mate. Do you think anyone who doesnt feel that way or agrees with you opinion on subjects isnt valid. You seem very dismissive on anyone that doesnt fit the Sam abuse or Bill isnt evil narrative. I dont see the point we are all pulling in the same direction.
Dismissive? You just said you enjoyed buzzing off the blue union?? Glass houses mate.
I'm challenging your narrative on an open forum. And you're challenging me. I don't see the issue.
I am never going to agree with Allardyce or Bill supporters, but I find it embarassing when I see posts like yours from genuine Evertonians who are actually saying to the rest of us to get back in our boxes. Know your place nonsense is a large reason why we are crap.
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