Ross Barkley

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Baines deserved his calling out in public for doing the same himself.

What's Barkley done to deserve his?

Deserve what?

Koeman has given him a platform, he will play on Saturday, Ross can either perform and leave Ronny smiling or he can cry like a lil bish and go missing.

I suspect we will be hailing our gaffers man management in 2 days time and you know what, so will Ross.
 

You answer that type of question by saying quickly that a decision was made to replace Barkley at HT and that it could have been in truth any of the forward players. Job done. You dont seize the chance to attack his shortcomings in public.
Didn't Koeman tell Gerry and Kev that they needed to up their effort in an earlier press conference. Tells it as it is, no more no less
 
Barkley has lived on his potential for a while now, there is no doubt he certainly has the ability to be something special but eventually you have to deliver. We have been saying "this is Ross' breakthrough year" for a while now; it would appear the time to produce is now.
I believe he has it and that he will produce but he seems to need a wee wake up call.
Koeman talked about him when ho took the job, Barkley was probably one of the pluses for him when deciding to come to Everton, I can't see Koeman not giving him every opportunity to display his talent but he needs to stop being potential and start being a star.
 

Barkley has lived on his potential for a while now, there is no doubt he certainly has the ability to be something special but eventually you have to deliver. We have been saying "this is Ross' breakthrough year" for a while now; it would appear the time to produce is now.
I believe he has it and that he will produce but he seems to need a wee wake up call.
Koeman talked about him when ho took the job, Barkley was probably one of the pluses for him when deciding to come to Everton, I can't see Koeman not giving him every opportunity to display his talent but he needs to stop being potential and start being a star.

Did you sleep through last season? Up until about Feb/March he was one of the best players in the league. 14 goals and 11 assists for club and country at the age of 21. What kind of ridiculous standards is Ross held to where that isn't regarded as anything other than potential?
 
Did you sleep through last season? Up until about Feb/March he was one of the best players in the league. 14 goals and 11 assists for club and country at the age of 21. What kind of ridiculous standards is Ross held to where that isn't regarded as anything other than potential?

He has the ability to be an all time great. I, and most people, are setting the bar very high for him but that is because we feel he is that good. I believe Everton can build a team around him that will challenge for trophies. I want him to destroy Middlesbrough on Saturday and everyone else this season.l don't believe we have see the best of him yet.
 
Good on the boss to tell him as it is.

He has the ability, he needs to stop giving the ball away like a two bob pub player like he does on occasions.

More likely to start Saturday than not, it's up to him to show he wants it badly and turn in a performance.
 
Sink or swim time, Everton fans should be excited to see how he responds. Don't know why people are obsessed with writing players off. Koeman needed to do something to kickstart Ross' because since the tail end of the season he's been in a slump.
 

Deserve what?

Koeman has given him a platform, he will play on Saturday, Ross can either perform and leave Ronny smiling or he can cry like a lil bish and go missing.

I suspect we will be hailing our gaffers man management in 2 days time and you know what, so will Ross.
Ross can take advice from Bobby and think "who are you lad, what do you know?" Or he could take advice from Ron, the world class former player who's seen and done it all. I know who'd I rather listen to.
I honestly think Koeman could be the best that's ever happened for Barkley.
 
Yeah, but it's hardly a stellar managerial career.

If this was Alex Ferguson there;d be less room for criticism. It's not though. He's been in management for about 15 years and had a mixed bag of results. He doesn't have the stature as a manager to be pulling off tricks like this.

If he wants to go the route he seems to here targeting individual players and giving a blank cheque to others similarly 'failing', then he'll have to take what comes his way.

Have you considered that maybe Koeman has walked into a group of players who let a manager and ultimately a club down last season. A group who towards the end of Moyes and Martinez were a little pampered and he won't make the mistakes of Martinez in allowing them to throw him under the bus?

We can certainly question whether Ross Barkley is the right person to target, or whether he will benefit from such an approach but I have to say if thats his broad strategy I can't say I have an awful lot of sympathy for players who just gave up for a manager last season.

As it happens I actually think Barkley will benefit from his. Or at least he stands the chance of being becoming better, whereas the softly softly approach I do think runs the risk of him not kicking onto the next level.
I also think the honest way Koeman does things downplays the problem. It's not complicated. He was subbed as he gave the ball away too much. It's a simple message and an attainable target of what he has to do better next time.

I'm a big Barkley fan by the way. For 2/3's of last season he was as good a midfielder as any in the league. As was shown on MNF his records stands up against Scholes, Gerrard, Lampard at the same age. The point Carragher made is a good one too though, which is it is at this age all of the above 3 "kicked on". Thats what Ross needs to do now. I do think he will need to toughen up a little.

One final point in this is it is not isolated to just Barkley. Lukaku didn't start straight away when he came back. Deulofeu was dropped when he didn't work hard enough. Bolasie and Williams didn't start straight away. Funes Mori was dropped having done not a lot wrong. Holgate has also been replaced. I am not sure anyone of the above has been treated anymore unfairly than Ross. I suppose it comes back to my original point though, does this squad need a bit of tough love?
 
Did subbing Ross off work? Yes? Ok let's move on. He should be dropped if he doesn't perform, same as every other player.
The second half would 'have worked' just as well if Mirallas had come off.

It was a totally arbitrary decision by Koeman who could have taken any one of five off. Let's not make it a master stroke.
 

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