Ross Barkley

Goat · September 15, 2016

davek said:
I cant remember an Everton manager of late taking a good chunk of a press conference to tell everyone he's had to tell a player where they're going wrong.

Do you think that's the right way to go about it?

Do I think our manager should answer questions that hes asked?

davek · September 15, 2016

MoutsGoat said:
Do I think our manager should answer questions that hes asked?

You answer that type of question by saying quickly that a decision was made to replace Barkley at HT and that it could have been in truth any of the forward players. Job done. You dont seize the chance to attack his shortcomings in public.

loooweee · September 15, 2016

Koeman just says it how it is and he also said it's not a problem and that barkley will be okay , not exactly hanging barkley to dry

davek said:
Just seen the comments by Koeman on Barkley.

Bang out of order.

His thoughts on the subject should remain in-house. Hanging him out to dry in the media is a snides trick.

I dont remember him telling Lukaku via the media where he was going wrong prior to Sunderland. Double standards.

Frankly it is not bad as some of the post I have read in here.. he has already scored two goals this season and had one bad game. Let him be

Goat · September 15, 2016

davek said:
You answer that type of question by saying quickly that a decision was made to replace Barkley at HT and that it could have been in truth any of the forward players. Job done. You dont seize the chance to attack his shortcomings in public.

He should have eaten the carrots.

Steve Wigan · September 15, 2016

Timak said:
Steve - did you see the first 2/3rds of last season? Do you think Ross was any good?

Honestly, I was 'critical' of him for most of last season, even early in the season.The debate about Ross and his hoped for success had already started and he still has the faults in his game that he had then. He has never been a 'tackler' and in the game these days every outfield player needs to take responsibility for tackling at some time...even Del boy does his best to at least hold up the opposition. Ross just stands there and lets them stroll past him. Why? If Koeman had joined Everton two years ago this may have been ironed out. But it hasn't, yet. The passing straight back to the player who passed to him is, lots of the time, down to not knowing what else to do with the ball,and 'passing the buck. The reason the ball has been passed to him is so that he can be creative. It very rarely happens. Ross is OK running at speed into the opponents box, and has a shot on him, but so do many others...maybe he should play as an out and out striker? Just thought.

davek · September 15, 2016

MoutsGoat said:
He should have eaten the carrots.

He's criticised him for his comments about being left out of the England squad, then a couple of days back Koeman states he'll have a word with him about form, today he reveals the details of that talk to the media.

He's on the lads back. Maybe he wants him out the door. And if that's Koeman's method of dealing with players then it's not on.

banno · September 15, 2016

Some managers are open about it and some managers do it behind closed doors. Its now all dependant on how Ross is built. Prove to the boss he can step up or go in a shell and shrink away to damage his career further more. If he shrinks away then he would never have made it to the very top anyway. My suspicion is he will get his head down and come back stronger....after a while. I don't see a problem with the manager coming out with this.

Kev The Rat · September 15, 2016

davek said:
He's criticised him for his comments about being left out of the England squad, then a couple of days back Koeman states he'll have a word with him about form, today he reveals the details of that talk to the media.

He's on the lads back. Maybe he wants him out the door. And if that's Koeman's method of dealing with players then it's not on.

but if it gets results Dave....

Goat · September 15, 2016

davek said:
He's criticised him for his comments about being left out of the England squad, then a couple of days back Koeman states he'll have a word with him about form, today he reveals the details of that talk to the media.

He's on the lads back. Maybe he wants him out the door. And if that's Koeman's method of dealing with players then it's not on.

Maybe he wants him to stop being a sulky little teenager.

Connor · September 15, 2016

davek said:
He's criticised him for his comments about being left out of the England squad, then a couple of days back Koeman states he'll have a word with him about form, today he reveals the details of that talk to the media.

He's on the lads back. Maybe he wants him out the door. And if that's Koeman's method of dealing with players then it's not on.

No chance Dave

Simon baker · September 15, 2016

Steve Wigan said:
Honestly, I was 'critical' of him for most of last season, even early in the season.The debate about Ross and his hoped for success had already started and he still has the faults in his game that he had then. He has never been a 'tackler' and in the game these days every outfield player needs to take responsibility for tackling at some time...even Del boy does his best to at least hold up the opposition. Ross just stands there and lets them stroll past him. Why? If Koeman had joined Everton two years ago this may have been ironed out. But it hasn't, yet. The passing straight back to the player who passed to him is, lots of the time, down to not knowing what else to do with the ball,and 'passing the buck. The reason the ball has been passed to him is so that he can be creative. It very rarely happens. Ross is OK running at speed into the opponents box, and has a shot on him, but so do many others...maybe he should play as an out and out striker? Just thought.

Not sure if this is serious or a wind up

Goat · September 15, 2016

Connor said:
No chance Dave

I think theres every chance.

Ronny doesnt play a number 10 normally, hes adapting the team for Ross and hes jogging around the pitch losing the ball.

davek · September 15, 2016

banno said:
Some managers are open about it and some managers do it behind closed doors. Its now all dependant on how Ross is built. Prove to the boss he can step up or go in a shell and shrink away to damage his career further more. If he shrinks away then he would never have made it to the very top anyway. My suspicion is he will get his head down and come back stronger....after a while. I don't see a problem with the manager coming out with this.

Whether it has the desired effect isn't even the issue for me. He hasn't been playing terribly, he's been ok this season. He was singled out by Koeman at Sunderland when it could have been just about any one of four or five to come off.

neil999 · September 15, 2016

davek said:
Whether it has the desired effect isn't even the issue for me. He hasn't been playing terribly, he's been ok this season. He was singled out by Koeman at Sunderland when it could have been just about any one of four or five to come off.

everything koeman is doing atm is working tho, so guess we will have to see how it goes with barkley..

Goat · September 15, 2016

davek said:
Whether it has the desired effect isn't even the issue for me. He hasn't been playing terribly, he's been ok this season. He was singled out by Koeman at Sunderland when it could have been just about any one of four or five to come off.

Hopefully we sell him to Sunderland in January.