Ross Barkley

PhilM · April 13, 2017

GrandOldTeam said:
Yes.

I'd love to be negotiating your pay rise!

hktoffee · April 13, 2017

PhilM said:
After his comments regarding about failed additions who we could have signed, then I expect measuring the club's ambitions is a huge part of it.

He wants to play CL football and there's nothing wrong with that, yet it's for us to convince him that it's possible here after two dire years.

If he (Rom) does eventually stay here and sign a contract then I'm sure they'll be some explicit promises regarding our overall direction.

That may in fact involve promises of signings! Perhaps not individual names but more about calibre. The same may be said with Ross to be fair.

This.

That's why I doubt signing of a random Brazilian striker or some Hull City defenders will do us any good in keeping Lukaku.

ProZ · April 13, 2017

We know everyone wants cl footy but the point is we have a young Everton academy graduate who is harping on about it.

What exactly is he wanting Koeman to say, he's basically holding the club to ransom with his contract even though we probably cannot get cl in the next couple of years atleast.

He must not have much of a brain if he thinks he can be at a "top 6"and play his favoured position, you would think seen as he is a supposed Everton Fan that it should be a pretty clear decision if the contract terms are fair.

GrandOldTeam · April 13, 2017

PhilM said:
I'd love to be negotiating your pay rise!

If he leaves Everton for another premier league side, he struggles. There's not many teams above us he's getting game time in.

Not convinced that's the case with Lukaku.

Still, the cynic in me suggests Barkley will sign a new deal very quickly after Rom scarpers.

The binman chronicles · April 13, 2017

Not sure what the fuss is about, I would like Ross to stay but if he doesn't Rooney will play in that position and is wise enough to pick the right pass. We heard how devastating it was to lose Rooney, Rodwell, Fellaini, Stones... almost always we do better the season after they have left.

Just another position to fill. 11 players who want to be here are likely to do better things than say 7 who do and 4 who don't really want to be here but are more talented.

ToffeeTim · April 13, 2017

He should sign. I doubt he's being offered less than 70k a week. It's indefensible for any blue to hold the club to ransom with such a mind bogglingly good financial deal on the table. If he wants to be an Evertonian then he needs to drop his nonsense.

Jimmy Grimble · April 13, 2017

alwaysblue said:
Maybe I read it wrong or way too optimistic, but RKs statement is the clearest indication that Ross will renew. He hasn't been offered a contract yet (according to RK) and the 'he's a kid of the club etc' is a huge positive.

He wants CL we want CL, can't think of anyone else I'd like to achieve it with. He's a blue, we're blues its in the stars.

I've had a few.

Not sure rk said Ross hadn't been offered a contract. I would be very surprised if he hasn't at this stage. Maybe bill has a gosling style verbal agreement so no need to panic

roydo · April 13, 2017

The binman chronicles said:
Not sure what the fuss is about, I would like Ross to stay but if he doesn't Rooney will play in that position and is wise enough to pick the right pass. We heard how devastating it was to lose Rooney, Rodwell, Fellaini, Stones... almost always we do better the season after they have left.

Just another position to fill. 11 players who want to be here are likely to do better things than say 7 who do and 4 who don't really want to be here but are more talented.

Tend to agree with that.

alwaysblue · April 13, 2017

GrandOldTeam said:
If he leaves Everton for another premier league side, he struggles. There's not many teams above us he's getting game time in.

Not convinced that's the case with Lukaku.

Still, the cynic in me suggests Barkley will sign a new deal very quickly after Rom scarpers.

Possibly, but the main rags (and Drogba) have Lukaku off to Chelsea. He is very different to Costa and couldn't play that role expected of him. We are set up to benefit him totally, he is our main outlet. How many teams above us in the Prem would do that?

JLW · April 13, 2017

Funny how players "wanting CL football' always gets mentioned just before contract renewals

alwaysblue · April 13, 2017

Jimmy Grimble said:
Not sure rk said Ross hadn't been offered a contract. I would be very surprised if he hasn't at this stage. Maybe bill has a gosling style verbal agreement so no need to panic

Maybe I'm being too literal, but 'It's always about the contract and we will offer him what is good, what is normal' says they haven't offered yet

davek · April 13, 2017

ProZ said:
We know everyone wants cl footy but the point is we have a young Everton academy graduate who is harping on about it.

What exactly is he wanting Koeman to say, he's basically holding the club to ransom with his contract even though we probably cannot get cl in the next couple of years atleast.

He must not have much of a brain if he thinks he can be at a "top 6"and play his favoured position, you would think seen as he is a supposed Everton Fan that it should be a pretty clear decision if the contract terms are fair.

It's not the case though is it? The club haven't offered him a deal.

Tbf, though, I dont think Barkley feels comfortable with Koeman. He's made him the centre of attention in the press and the lad does not want to be a matter of media discussion. His game is changing beyond recognition too.

I think he'll sign but it'll be like pulling teeth and Everton will have to hand him a package that makes sense.

GrandOldTeam · April 13, 2017

alwaysblue said:
Possibly, but the main rags (and Drogba) have Lukaku off to Chelsea. He is very different to Costa and couldn't play that role expected of him. We are set up to benefit him totally, he is our main outlet. How many teams above us in the Prem would do that?

Shush, don't let that secret out the bag - you never know who is reading lol

alwaysblue said:
Maybe I'm being too literal, but 'It's always about the contract and we will offer him what is good, what is normal' says they haven't offered yet

They have.

Another revised one will be offered.

Koeman hasn't been putting pressure on for weeks for no good reason.

GrandOldTeam · April 13, 2017

davek said:
It's not the case though is it? The club haven't offered him a deal.

Tbf, though, I dont think Barkley feels comfortable with Koeman. He's made him the centre of attention in the press and the lad does not want to be a matter of media discussion. His game is changing beyond recognition too.

I think he'll sign but it'll be like pulling teeth and Everton will have to hand him a package that makes sense.

I'm also not sure Koeman is convinced on Barkley.

If we had a Rooney/Sigurdsson - Barkley could have been sat on our bench since December;

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/dec/23/everton-ronald-koeman-ross-barkley-quandary

I'm not saying they're better, but we had very little option when he was playing so turd.

alwaysblue · April 13, 2017

GrandOldTeam said:
Shush, don't let that secret out the bag - you never know who is reading lol

They have.

Another revised one will be offered.

Koeman hasn't been putting pressure on for weeks for no good reason.

Ah right, I am very literal though ask Mrs alwaysblue. 'What do you want for breakfast love? Something small' a shreddie was not the right answer apparently