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That's a bit weak to just dismiss the other opinions as fanboyism, I'm certainly no Messi fanboy and have a strong dislike for Barcelona but I genuinely think he's the best player of all time and that there is at least an argument for him being as good if not better in some of those areas than Ronaldinho.



That doesn't really matter though does it, because he did take HGH and to my knowledge there is no concrete evidence that any rules were broken. He took HGH because he was at a natural physical disadvantage, it helped him overcome this disadvantage and also most likely benefited him beyond that. I'm not really sure what this has to do with the discussion unless you want to compare a hypothetical Messi without HGH to Ronaldinho, which is a bit weird.

Mate I only bought up Messi to get a rise from the arteta great fan bloke. He reminds me of HongKongToffee.
 
“Fanboys”? Folk need to stop judging players based on highlight reels.

Ronaldinho, the “toothy grinned wizard”, was a genius, but his wow moments (while substantial) are nowhere near the quantity of Messi. Had he kept up that three season output for 12 years, then he’d be in the conversation with Messi.

This is where I’d rank the four great Brazilian Barca players I’ve been lucky to watch over 22 years of Sky.

Messi
Ronaldo
Ronaldinho
Rivaldo

The second greatest player I’ve seen, Ronaldo, was more impressive than Ronaldinho as he everything he did was rapid. It’s one thing pulling off those moves in a laid back style, completely another at fast forward.

The last of the four Rivaldo was also a genius. Technique wise, he was a better player than Cristiano (tbh I’ve never really enjoyed watching Cristiano..., appreciate his finishing, but not often thought wow...he’s an average dribbler, does not have great vision, just a fabulous finisher).
 
One of my all time faves to watch on TV.

agreed, think messi and ronaldos ridiculousness over such a long period has kind of Numbed me to them as weird as it sounds.

Him and Brazilian ronaldo shone bright briefly you couldnt not take notice
 
“Fanboys”? Folk need to stop judging players based on highlight reels.

Ronaldinho, the “toothy grinned wizard”, was a genius, but his wow moments (while substantial) are nowhere near the quantity of Messi. Had he kept up that three season output for 12 years, then he’d be in the conversation with Messi.

This is where I’d rank the four great Brazilian Barca players I’ve been lucky to watch over 22 years of Sky.

Messi
Ronaldo
Ronaldinho
Rivaldo

The second greatest player I’ve seen, Ronaldo, was more impressive than Ronaldinho as he everything he did was rapid. It’s one thing pulling off those moves in a laid back style, completely another at fast forward.

The last of the four Rivaldo was also a genius. Technique wise, he was a better player than Cristiano (tbh I’ve never really enjoyed watching Cristiano..., appreciate his finishing, but not often thought wow...he’s an average dribbler, does not have great vision, just a fabulous finisher).
Didnt realise messi was from brazil
Shows how much i know
 
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