Ronaldinho

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What I’ve always said about him is that countless footballers have/can be skilful when running with the ball but he was beyond skilful when he was stationary.
 
Probably the most spectacular player of all time, Messi does most things better than every other player in the world. Ronaldinho did things that no other player would even contemplate.

Loved the sesh too, and has 2 wives.
 
Did stuff with a football Messi could only dream of.

Better vision, better execution, better with the ball at his feet, better header of the ball, better free-kick taker, stronger and faster.
 
Did stuff with a football Messi could only dream of.

Better vision, better execution, better with the ball at his feet, better header of the ball, better free-kick taker, stronger and faster.
Neigh chance.

What makes Messi the greatest talent to ever kick a ball are those three categories.
 
Hahaha I knew you'd poke your head out. Ronaldinho was far better at all 3 you highlighted, it's not even a question.

All three are definitely questionable tbh, to say it's not even a question is pretty ridiculous given literally millions would disagree with you.

I really can't see how Ronaldinho was better at 'execution', that basically means final product to me... and Messi wins on that front by an absolute landslide.
 
All three are definitely questionable tbh, to say it's not even a question is pretty ridiculous given literally millions would disagree with you.

I really can't see how Ronaldinho was better at 'execution', that basically means final product to me... and Messi wins on that front by an absolute landslide.

It's an argument I can't win because Messi fanboys are blind to it.

Tell me, where do you think Messi would be now if he hadn't been dosed up to the eyeballs with HGH? He is a foot taller than he would have been without it, and obviously more muscle mass therefore stronger and quicker.
 
It's an argument I can't win because Messi fanboys are blind to it.

That's a bit weak to just dismiss the other opinions as fanboyism, I'm certainly no Messi fanboy and have a strong dislike for Barcelona but I genuinely think he's the best player of all time and that there is at least an argument for him being as good if not better in some of those areas than Ronaldinho.

Tell me, where do you think Messi would be now if he hadn't been dosed up to the eyeballs with HGH? He is a foot taller than he would have been without it, and obviously more muscle mass, therefore, stronger and quicker.

That doesn't really matter though does it, because he did take HGH and to my knowledge there is no concrete evidence that any rules were broken. He took HGH because he was at a natural physical disadvantage, it helped him overcome this disadvantage and also most likely benefited him beyond that. I'm not really sure what this has to do with the discussion unless you want to compare a hypothetical Messi without HGH to Ronaldinho, which is a bit weird.
 
It's an argument I can't win because Messi fanboys are blind to it.

Tell me, where do you think Messi would be now if he hadn't been dosed up to the eyeballs with HGH? He is a foot taller than he would have been without it, and obviously more muscle mass therefore stronger and quicker.

Hard to know where to start, but HGH does help young people to grow (and adults to gain more muscle mass), but not only does that mass not translate into better performance (https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/growth-hormone-athletic-performance-and-aging), but it isn't something that would last for years and years.
 
Ronaldinho is my all time favourite player highly doubt we will see a player of his mound again. I’d argue that he had more natural ability then Messi but Messi is a smarter footballer and more professional.
 
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