Ronald Koeman discussion

Khalekan · December 2, 2016

blueboy1945 said:
Ball was sold as he asked to leave, Catterick was never a fan of Young, amazing isn't it?

Ball asked to leave?

I never knew that.

Khalekan · December 2, 2016

blueboy1945 said:
Is that really true?

Certainly true in the post war period.

davek · December 2, 2016

blueboy1945 said:
Is that really true?

Yes. Ex-players and before we had managers committees ran the club.

bicycleheader · December 2, 2016

davek said:
Coaches players doesn't he? I'd hoped he could come in and coach our back four to make it a solid foundation to continue to play our attacking football on.

That hasn't turned out to be the case. All he's done is shifted the whole team back 20 yards. That's not great for £6m per season really is it?

Dave, you're supposed to be giving him the season but fairly criticising things along the way. You have accidentally slipped into "slate him for everything" mode and the mask has slipped off

up your game you big moany lemon face

roydo · December 2, 2016

davek said:
It means everything: the only managers we've had who won a trophy have been ex players.

Blimey, never even thought of that. Good quiz question that, for not too long though I hope.

roydo · December 2, 2016

Khalekan said:
Ball asked to leave?

I never knew that.

I read an ex player, cant remember who, said it was more a case of he had to leave, gambling issues he said.

davek · December 2, 2016

bicycleheader said:
Dave, you're supposed to be giving him the season but fairly criticising things along the way. You have accidentally slipped into "slate him for everything" mode and the mask has slipped off

up your game you big moany lemon face

That's not true mate.

How can it be not a constant criticism of him in a massive slump like this and when every time he opens his mouth he puts his size 10 clogs in it?

If he starts getting results and keeps his grid shut the balance will be in the other direction.

Khalekan · December 2, 2016

roydo said:
I read an ex player, cant remember who, said it was more a case of he had to leave, gambling issues he said.

I have heard whispers of gambling......and I know Bally liked to play the horses.

But if a player adds for a transfer he doesn't get a cut of the fee as far as I know so he couldn't have used that to pay off any gambling debts

Maybe he needed away from bad influences on Merseyside.

roydo · December 2, 2016

Khalekan said:
I have heard whispers of gambling......and I know Bally liked to play the horses.

But if a player adds for a transfer he doesn't get a cut of the fee as far as I know.

Maybe he needed away from bad influences on Merseyside.

In those days, signing on fees were the norm.

AndyC · December 2, 2016

roydo said:
I read an ex player, cant remember who, said it was more a case of he had to leave, gambling issues he said.

I too heard that years ago, such a shame that the gee-gees cost us the services of one the games all-time greats.

Tennessee Blue Mike · December 2, 2016

blueboy1945 said:
The only slight concern I have about Davies is that he seems a bit slow, I am only going by what I have seen on tv and hope someone can show I'm wrong!

Perhaps a valid point. But his passing skills are great and his vision is top notch. From what I have seen he is a tremendous prospect.

davmaher · December 2, 2016

davek said:
Coaches players doesn't he? I'd hoped he could come in and coach our back four to make it a solid foundation to continue to play our attacking football on.

That hasn't turned out to be the case. All he's done is shifted the whole team back 20 yards. That's not great for £6m per season really is it?

It does seem expensive. Works out at 300 grand a yard.

roydo · December 2, 2016

AndyC said:
I too heard that years ago, such a shame that the gee-gees cost us the services of one the games all-time greats.

Gambling has taken a lot of good players down. Think it was Andy King, who suffered from it, put it rather well when he said that with the ale, you go in a pub with £100, get bladdered, still have £50. Go in a bookies with £10k, you lose the lot.

AndyC · December 2, 2016

roydo said:
Gambling has taken a lot of good players down. Think it was Andy King, who suffered from it, put it rather well when he said that with the ale, you go in a pub with £100, get bladdered, still have £50. Go in a bookies with £10k, you lose the lot.

The stories of players (not Everton to my knowledge, a club shall we say within an hours drive) betting £5k on the turn of a card on the coach trip to away games are well known in Manchester.

roydo · December 2, 2016

AndyC said:
The stories of players (not Everton to my knowledge, a club shall we say within an hours drive) betting £5k on the turn of a card on the coach trip to away games are well known in Manchester.

Can easily believe that.