Roberto's Barkley Bid Comment

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He just called Moyes, Utd and their media lackeys "no account cnts" right there.

I really suspect he's gonna ring Moyes and threaten to bang his fit daughter if he doesn't wind his eyes in.

'Stop looking ata my playersh like that, moyez', 'am noo bobby, it's ma eyes'
 
I love Bobby as much as anyone else; love his tactics, humour, attacking football, his classiness in interviews etc. Believe me I am 99.9% happy with everything that's happened since he came in. The one comment from him I didn't love was the bit about going from one transfer window to the next, and not going for long-term. It worried me a bit, should it have? Everything is wonderful now and I'm loving it, but don't forget some of our key players are loan signings. Things could seem a lot worse 12 months from now (sorry, it's my inner pessimist).

I also don't get though all the anti-Moyes comments on here, I really don't. Moyes did build teams for the future and brought in many good players cheaply who were ours for the long-term, and fought hard to get good prices for them eg. Lescott. Sure - I lost a hell of a lot of respect for Moyes with what went on with Baines and Felliani in the summer, but last year we also played some pretty good football too under him. With regards Barkley's development, yes maybe Moyes was too slow to play him, but also Michael Owen said his career was shortened by being overplayed too much when too young at Liverpool, and that if he'd been at United from a young age he would have lasted a lot longer.

I'm a big Bobby fan, but I don't think that liking Bobby means that we have to indulge in Moyes-revisionism. Compared to the rest of football I think both are classy managers - thou Moyes a bit less so now of course, but he's doing right by his new club

Mate how can we do long term?

Our whole financial basis these days is as a selling club the Moyes long term acquisitions were on the whole journeymen built for top mid table playing in a certain way. It's no coincidence only Arteta and Lescott got a game at top table clubs and no coincidence we never won a bean with such players.

Martinez is thinking laterally here accepting what is reality and finding a solution.

Regarding Moyes revisionism the reality is Moyes tenure became a source of criticism years ago a good number never fell for the media myth - hardly revisionism more likely people finally see the light.
 
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Mate how can we do long term?

Our whole financial basis these days is as a selling club the Moyes long term acquisitions were on the whole journeymen built for top mid table playing in a certain way. It's no coincidence only Arteta and Lescott got a game at top table clubs and no coincidence we never won a bean with such players.

Martinez is thinking laterally here accepting what is reality and finding a solution.

Regarding Moyes revisionism the reality is Moyes tenure became a source of criticism years ago a good number never fell for the media myth - hardly revisionism more likely people finally see the light.

Spot on.

Martinez has shown in a few months that the doom-laden forecasts about what life would be without 'the Moyesiah' was the load of tosh many of us knew it to be.
 
I love Bobby as much as anyone else; love his tactics, humour, attacking football, his classiness in interviews etc. Believe me I am 99.9% happy with everything that's happened since he came in. The one comment from him I didn't love was the bit about going from one transfer window to the next, and not going for long-term. It worried me a bit, should it have? Everything is wonderful now and I'm loving it, but don't forget some of our key players are loan signings. Things could seem a lot worse 12 months from now (sorry, it's my inner pessimist).

I also don't get though all the anti-Moyes comments on here, I really don't. Moyes did build teams for the future and brought in many good players cheaply who were ours for the long-term, and fought hard to get good prices for them eg. Lescott. Sure - I lost a hell of a lot of respect for Moyes with what went on with Baines and Felliani in the summer, but last year we also played some pretty good football too under him. With regards Barkley's development, yes maybe Moyes was too slow to play him, but also Michael Owen said his career was shortened by being overplayed too much when too young at Liverpool, and that if he'd been at United from a young age he would have lasted a lot longer.

I'm a big Bobby fan, but I don't think that liking Bobby means that we have to indulge in Moyes-revisionism. Compared to the rest of football I think both are classy managers - thou Moyes a bit less so now of course, but he's doing right by his new club

The reason for the anti moyes comments is quite simple. Finding himself in a lofty perch in the summer he tried to **** on everton down below. Martinez's casual comments about a Manu bid just make moyes seem like a chimp playing with his own faeces.

Had he acted with a bit more class over the summer I don't think there would be too many issues with him. And had he shared martinez's ambitious and optimistic approach in the last few years here we may have actually won something.
 
Hahaha christ what has he done to our footie club?? Great comeback comment that is..... just an absolute breath of fresh air
 
He has been a breath of fresh air to our club - answers direct - calm sense of humour - my older brother who is 65 has returned to watch the blues on occasion since day one of his arrival - he has watched the blues since the late 1950;s - He went when DM was Manager he seen a good few games and stopped - his decision could not stand the brand of football long term that DM served up - early days, but RM team tries to play non stop attacking football he has seen good and bad teams with the blues - he rated the Southampton team as a very good footballing side - you have to be entertained - COYB!
 
I love Bobby as much as anyone else; love his tactics, humour, attacking football, his classiness in interviews etc. Believe me I am 99.9% happy with everything that's happened since he came in. The one comment from him I didn't love was the bit about going from one transfer window to the next, and not going for long-term. It worried me a bit, should it have? Everything is wonderful now and I'm loving it, but don't forget some of our key players are loan signings. Things could seem a lot worse 12 months from now (sorry, it's my inner pessimist).

I also don't get though all the anti-Moyes comments on here, I really don't. Moyes did build teams for the future and brought in many good players cheaply who were ours for the long-term, and fought hard to get good prices for them eg. Lescott. Sure - I lost a hell of a lot of respect for Moyes with what went on with Baines and Felliani in the summer, but last year we also played some pretty good football too under him. With regards Barkley's development, yes maybe Moyes was too slow to play him, but also Michael Owen said his career was shortened by being overplayed too much when too young at Liverpool, and that if he'd been at United from a young age he would have lasted a lot longer.

I'm a big Bobby fan, but I don't think that liking Bobby means that we have to indulge in Moyes-revisionism. Compared to the rest of football I think both are classy managers - thou Moyes a bit less so now of course, but he's doing right by his new club

These loan comments really get on my nerves! Like we'v borrowed half a team and are only doing well due to these players who will be off and leave us average! It's simply not the case.

We have 3 players on loan...

Barry - He will 95% be our player again next season. It's a loan because Barry wanted the cash from the last yr of his city contract. He's our player all but in name.

Delefuoe - Were not where we are because of him. He's added potential quality on the bench. His standard currently we could replace him, however he could even still be here next season.

Lakaku - Has made a difference, and we will miss him. But we will have to sign a striker at some point, was always going to be the case, RM has bought us a year! who knows who we will get to replace could even end up lakaku.

Stop panicking about the loans, there not quite as seems and not a massive deal
 
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