Relegation 2022/23

Are Everton going to stay in the Premier League?

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Lanolin said:
I'm not sure that's true to be honest. Obviously some do, but a lot of what you hear is just bluster and people trying to salvage what little pride that hasn't been kicked out of them by making out like we're still relevant. Most people are all too aware of where the club is in reality, they might try to talk us up (someone has to) but they aren't blind.
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Nah I can't agree with that, far too many are happy to plod along with the current situation and frown upon those who dare to want change. Too many are schooled on the Kenwright/Moyes years of mediocrity and are happy with 2nd rate players, 2nd rate managers, and a 2nd rate delivery from the club.
 

Simon Buttle said:
Nah I can't agree with that, far too many are happy to plod along with the current situation and frown upon those who dare to want change. Too many are schooled on the Kenwright/Moyes years of mediocrity and are happy with 2nd rate players, 2nd rate managers, and a 2nd rate delivery from the club.
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So your solution to people being happy with the 'mediocrity' of finishing consistently in the top 8 is to get relegated? Seems like solid logic.
 
Lanolin said:
So your solution to people being happy with the 'mediocrity' of finishing consistently in the top 8 is to get relegated? Seems like solid logic.
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It's not my solution, it will happen anyway because we have a clueless manager who can't set a team up properly. I don't want the team relegated but I fear we will be.
 
Simon Buttle said:
It's not my solution, it will happen anyway because we have a clueless manager who can't set a team up properly. I don't want the team relegated but I fear we will be.
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You're effectively saying it wouldn't be a bad thing though, because it would reset people's expectations? I assumed you meant people have too high an opinion of us and going down might make people realise that we can't compete at the top anymore, but you're actually saying that people's expectations are too low, and the way to make them realise that is for us to get worse. It makes no sense to me like, but fair enough, we're all entitled to an opinion.
 

Lanolin said:
You're effectively saying it wouldn't be a bad thing though, because it would reset people's expectations? I assumed you meant people have too high an opinion of us and going down might make people realise that we can't compete at the top anymore, but you're actually saying that people's expectations are too low, and the way to make them realise that is for us to get worse. It makes no sense to me like, but fair enough, we're all entitled to an opinion.
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We are not a big club and can't compete anymore, all I was saying was if we went down I wouldn't be bothered as maybe some others seem to be, nothing more. We need a full reset from top to bottom.
 
MACCA75 said:
I think when you start circling the drain it’s only a matter of time. Happened to Villa, and we look in the same death spiral.
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It's entirely possible to get out of it, but the people running the show have absolutely no idea what to do or how to do it.
 
Azza said:
If / when it happens we'll just be like Sunderland.
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Remember the Sunderland documentary. Their highest earning players on long Premier League contracts laughing amongst themselves about “not playing” and refusing to leave.
The club tried everything to get them off the books and they just said no and laughed about it. Nothing the club could do. This is the risk we have.
 
Del-boy said:
Remember the Sunderland documentary. Their highest earning players on long Premier League contracts laughing amongst themselves about “not playing” and refusing to leave.
The club tried everything to get them off the books and they just said no and laughed about it. Nothing the club could do. This is the risk we have.
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That’s gonna be us with Iwobi and Gordon when their 5 year £100k a week contracts land.
 
MikeH72 said:
That’s gonna be us with Iwobi and Gordon when their 5 year £100k a week contracts land.
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Same with Pickford. However I think the contracts had been drawn up before Christmas to present to the players. Due to the down turn and prospect of relegation I imagine the contracts have been changed. Relegation release clause, relegation wage drop.
This is why they haven’t been signed as the players agents are no longer happy with the changes.
Don’t forget this is the club that likes to mask bad news with good. A few new contracts given to our best players would have surely been done to try and keeps things positive.
 

Lanolin said:
You're effectively saying it wouldn't be a bad thing though, because it would reset people's expectations? I assumed you meant people have too high an opinion of us and going down might make people realise that we can't compete at the top anymore, but you're actually saying that people's expectations are too low, and the way to make them realise that is for us to get worse. It makes no sense to me like, but fair enough, we're all entitled to an opinion.
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I don't think it will help us, particularly with the way we are run but there are a lot of teams above us and looking upwards that were in the Championship recently, most notably Newcastle
 

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