Relegation 2022/23

[mikel_88]

Yes.

Leicester had 4 losses in a row and ended that sequence with just a draw on Saturday.

They've gone from the fringes of this battle to right in it though.

On Everton: a win from either the Spurs or United games (or even two more draws to add to the Chelsea draw) and I dont see our players doing anything other than motoring through the last 8 games. I think under those circumstances we have to seriously be looking at beating City, especially if they're in the SF of the CL -the legs of which fall either side of that fixture - and well off Arsenal....two likely scenarios IMO.

Just was a massive point on saturday really hope the lads can get the win against spurs. This set of games will set the season up with us having a full squad to pick from aswell hopefully

 

[davek]

Just was a massive point on saturday really hope the lads can get the win against spurs. This set of games will set the season up with us having a full squad to pick from aswell hopefully

I'm sure Dyche will be telling them that if they get the win against Spurs we'd be a handful of points away from safety. That'd be the incentive. 29 points would put us about 7 points away from safety. We could get that and then some.

That game will mean way more to Everton than Spurs.

 

[Charles Hawtrey]

Premier League relegation odds: Who's going down and who's staying up?​

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By Liam Kelly
16:31 · MON March 20, 2023

Could this be the greatest fight for survival in Premier League history?
Perhaps it's a bit early to say so with ten or more games remaining for all the sides involved, but four points separate the bottom nine teams, setting up a riveting run-in.
It is fair to say, however, that the reason we have such an open relegation battle in 2022/23 is there are a number bad teams, almost all of them in hope — or desperation — that three teams are worse.
So, let's take a look at each candidate for the drop, starting with the league's out of form side.

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Premier League relegation 2022/23 odds (via Sky Bet)​

• Southampton - 2/5
• Bournemouth - 4/7
• Nottingham Forest - 10/11
• Everton - 7/4
• Leeds - 3/1
• Wolves - 7/2
• Leicester - 4/1
• West Ham - 9/2
• Crystal Palace - 5/1

Odds correct at 0900 GMT (20/03/23)

Crystal Palace: 12th - 27 points​

Without a win in 2023, Crystal Palace were sleepwalking towards relegation and are now hoping a new manager will be the catalyst for change after sacking Patrick Vieira.
Change is certainly needed from an attacking perspective. Palace have scored only seven goals in their 14 league games since the World Cup break, averaging a lowly 0.89 expected goals for (xGF) per game.
There is perhaps positive news for whoever takes charge at Selhurst Park, however. Palace face every team below them in their last 10 fixtures, the easiest schedule in the league in terms of average opponent position.
Despite the shocking form, their fate is in their own hands.

Wolves: 13th - 27 points​

It's difficult to decipher where exactly Julen Lopetegui has made strides with this Wolves side.
Although the conversion of chances is better than under Bruno Lage, the Old Gold still look a terrible team going forward and are now allowing more chances and more goals than they did with their former boss.
The 4-2 defeat to Leeds last time out was perturbing, only looking a threat when three goals down.
Maybe the brief moment Wolves appeared they could get a result can give them confidence going into future matches, but their current faults could see them drop lower if not corrected.

Leeds: 14th - 26 points​

Just when it was starting to look like Javi Gracia was happy to lower the entertainment level in order to earn points, Leeds gained three in a wild game with Wolves.
I'm done guessing what this team will look like week-to-week, but the win lifted them from 19th to 14th. Just enjoy the ride.

Everton: 15th - 26 points​

Speaking of home comforts, three 1-0 wins at Goodison Park under Sean Dyche have vaulted Everton out of the drop zone and into 15th place with ten games remaining.
Much like last season, Everton fans might have to drag their team out of trouble, but there are certainly signs that Dyche has made a difference at the club.
The putrid performance in the Merseyside derby aside, the Toffees have managed to create scoring opportunities, a trait that will put them ahead of other relegation rivals.
Gaining 11 points from a possible 24 is a solid rate, one that will see Everton comfortably survive if continued.

Nottingham Forest: 16th - 26 points​

Friday's 2-1 defeat to Newcastle (xG: FOR 0.56 - 2.82 NEW) is a worrying sign on multiple fronts for fans of Nottingham Forest.
Firstly, it is home form that is currently keeping Forest's head above water. No other team in the survival fight has more points gained at home this season, earning 20 of their 26 at the City Ground, so being beaten after taking the lead when hosting Newcastle is far from ideal.
They have just five home matches remaining, with fixtures against Wolves and Southampton looking particularly important.
I may sound like a broken record already, but an inability to score goals and create meaningful chances is another issue for this relegation candidate. Steve Cooper's side have scored only 22 goals from opportunities equating to 29.6 xG.
Add in the fact that Forest are one of the very worst defensive teams in the Premier League and their place in the top tier looks tenuous.

Leicester: 17th - 25 points​

Leicester get to face a fair few of these rivals in their remaining fixtures and there's reason to believe the Foxes should climb the table given recent displays.
Results haven't really gone their way, but Leicester have performed well against some good teams.
Brendan Rodgers' side have been a much better defensive side after a torrid start to the season and possess the offensive talent to test all six of the teams they face that are also in trouble.
The tide can turn if they continue in the same vein.

West Ham: 18th - 24 points​

It is away form that has West Ham in this mess, which puts a lot more stress on home games, and indeed, the first fixture after the international break, hosting Southampton at the London Stadium.
No team has a lower total of six points gained on the road, simply not good enough from 13 games played. They've scored seven goals from 16.6 xG away from home, which includes two penalties.
That might need to change to lift themselves out of trouble, visiting Bournemouth, Crystal Palace and Leicester before the season is out.
The Hammers have more than enough quality to escape trouble, however.

Bournemouth: 19th - 24 points​

Gary O'Neil has done a fairly impressive job after replacing Scott Parker.
Although Bournemouth clearly lack the same level of quality as the other relegation candidates, they're a scrappy team that has ground out results.
Underlying numbers support the idea that the Cherries have been the worst team in the Premier League, though, so it's difficult to envisage them staying up, which is why they remain one of the favourites for the drop with the bookies.
Bournemouth comfortably sit bottom of the expected points (xP) table and currently hold the worst expected goal difference of any team in the league, posting a -24.8 xGD.

Southampton: 20th - 23 points​

Much like Bournemouth, bottom side Southampton appear to be one of the least talented teams in the Premier League that keep pulling out a result when needed to hand them hope.
Eight points from a possible 18 under Rubén Sellés is certainly an improvement, but the underlying numbers have been worrying.
Although the Saints recorded 2.68 expected goals (xG) when successfully pegging back Spurs last time out, they've averaged only 0.78 xGF per game in the other five games since Sellés took charge.
Southampton still have Manchester City, Arsenal, Newcastle, Brighton and Liverpool to play, so it's understandable they're 2/5 with Sky Bet to be relegated.

 

[stamullenblue]

I'm sure Dyche will be telling them that if they get the win against Spurs we'd be a handful of points away from safety. That'd be the incentive. 29 points would put us about 7 points away from safety. We could get that and then some.

That game will mean way more to Everton than Spurs.

Hopefully Conte still in charge and the players down tools. Not beyond the realms

 

[davek]

Hopefully Conte still in charge and the players down tools. Not beyond the realms

Goodison Monday night game with the crowd up for it...I think it hardly matters what Spurs are up to. If the team feed off that atmosphere they'll see off Spurs.

We've seen off a better Arsenal team, and Id say that getting three points against a bang in form Brentford and a point away to a resurgent Chelsea is a harder task than beating Spurs.

 

[stamullenblue]

Goodison Monday night game with the crowd up for it...I think it hardly matters what Spurs are up to. If the team feed off that atmosphere they'll see off Spurs.

We've seen off a better Arsenal team, and Id say that getting three points against a bang in form Brentford and a point away to a resurgent Chelsea is a harder task than beating Spurs.

Hope you right but all help accepted at the moment

 

[Armaghtoffee]

I'm sure Dyche will be telling them that if they get the win against Spurs we'd be a handful of points away from safety. That'd be the incentive. 29 points would put us about 7 points away from safety. We could get that and then some.

That game will mean way more to Everton than Spurs.

That Chelsea point will have given both team and fans the belief that we can get ourselves out of this.

Goodison will be a bear pit for Spurs and I really do think we’ll take them and see off Conte in the process.

 

[barneygumble]

Conte to be sacked this week, marvellous

 

[toffeemeister77]

Goodison Monday night game with the crowd up for it...I think it hardly matters what Spurs are up to. If the team feed off that atmosphere they'll see off Spurs.

We've seen off a better Arsenal team, and Id say that getting three points against a bang in form Brentford and a point away to a resurgent Chelsea is a harder task than beating Spurs.

Lets crush them.

 

[toffeemeister77]

Conte to be sacked this week, marvellous

We don't want to face new manager bounce like Arsenal

 

[Neiler]

I'm sure Dyche will be telling them that if they get the win against Spurs we'd be a handful of points away from safety. That'd be the incentive. 29 points would put us about 7 points away from safety. We could get that and then some.

That game will mean way more to Everton than Spurs.

You seeing the reports Conte could get the axe before our game! Pressure seems to be growing and media running with it.

Would prefer him to stay on to be honest, civil war there, they will inevitably go for Poch and we don’t need that bounce.

 

[neil999]

The conte thing could be good or bad, spurs are still a good side

 

[Saint Domingo]

I'm sure Dyche will be telling them that if they get the win against Spurs we'd be a handful of points away from safety. That'd be the incentive. 29 points would put us about 7 points away from safety. We could get that and then some.

That game will mean way more to Everton than Spurs.

I fancy us for points against Spurs and United. If Southampton and Fulham can go to Old Trafford and put performances in then so can we, and we can beat anyone at any point at Goodison.

 

[Librarian]

 

[Neiler]

Yep looks like he’s goner. Ffs they’ll get a bounce now with Poch - presumably he gets it.