relative media coverage

[mrb85]

Seem to remember reading (possibly in this thread!) that something like Manchester United vs Exeter got more viewers than Arsenal vs Barcelona in the same week.

i think you'll find this was well before so many households had Sky, who covered the Arsenal game, while the Utd game was on regular TV

 

[WA Toffee]

History lesson boys.

Why are Man U and the Shoite the biggest clubs?

MOTD began in 1964....the manure and shoite shared the first 4 championships in the MOTD era. People saw them winning and hey presto their huge armchair "me too" nationwide and Irish fanbases.

Simple as that. Right time to be winning.

If MOTD had started half a dozen years earlier millions in Ireland and Norway and Surrey woud now be following Wolves and Spurs.

Not sure that is the real reason. RS are a huge club bcause they wouldn't stop winning in the 70s and 80s. Man Utd are a huge club partly because of the Busby Babes - that made them an international club. Their success over last 20 years has made them the biggest club in the world.

 

[mrb85]

Not sure that is the real reason. RS are a huge club bcause they wouldn't stop winning in the 70s and 80s. Man Utd are a huge club partly because of the Busby Babes - that made them an international club. Their success over last 20 years has made them the biggest club in the world.

Despite their 70s and 80s successes, the RS were still on the way down and out of the national public consciousness until the fluke in Istanbul.

PS - don't swallow that crap about Utd being the biggest club in the world. RM are, by a street. The irony is, both Utd and RM are only sustained in their positions by massive debt positions, including in RMs case illegal state support.

 

[Pootsy]

My lads got one of these.. No idea it could pick up telly like ?

Get a new memory card, install RaspBMC then an Addon called SportsDevil.

 

[DanB90]

The amount of fans (armchair fans anyway) is based on success IMO. If say City were to go and dominate for the next 15-20 years the way Man U have done, then wouldn't the next generation of armchair fans be City supporters? Then the media would be fawning over them. Liverpool are in the media so much now because of the dominance they had in the years before Man U were good bought them a lot of fans. Guaranteed if they were to be a mid table team for the next 10-15 years we wouldn't have to put up with seeing them in the media half as much. That's just my view on it anyway

 

[Walken]

we had sustained success in the 80's that is completely blank, most neutral prem fans probably don't even know who howard kendall is, let alone how good his team was

 

[deipnosophist]

Seem to remember reading (possibly in this thread!) that something like Manchester United vs Exeter got more viewers than Arsenal vs Barcelona in the same week.

...not in Spain, I bet!

 

[davek]

History lesson boys.

Why are Man U and the Shoite the biggest clubs?

MOTD began in 1964....the manure and shoite shared the first 4 championships in the MOTD era. People saw them winning and hey presto their huge armchair "me too" nationwide and Irish fanbases.

Simple as that. Right time to be winning.

If MOTD had started half a dozen years earlier millions in Ireland and Norway and Surrey woud now be following Wolves and Spurs.

24 years without a league title. Are Liverpool the biggest club along with United, or has someone been jumping in the time machine?

Liverpool used to be big for a couple of decades toward the end of the twentieth century.

I think that just about covers it.

 

[mrb85]

Co

24 years without a league title. Are Liverpool the biggest club along with United, or has someone been jumping in the time machine?

Liverpool used to be big for a couple of decades toward the end of the twentieth century.

I think that just about covers it.

Correct. Istanbul saved them from being just one of the crowd.

 

[efcfanwirral]

we had sustained success in the 80's that is completely blank, most neutral prem fans probably don't even know who howard kendall is, let alone how good his team was

I've had to tell people that Everton have ever won the league. I'm not always sure they believe me to be honest....

 

[Walken]

I've had to tell people that Everton have ever won the league. I'm not always sure they believe me to be honest....

doesn't surprise me at all mate, in the national medias eyes that era never happened

 

[davek]

Co

Correct. Istanbul saved them from being just one of the crowd.

They've been what I'd call an 'elite' team in England since their last league title two and a half decades ago, but that's not the same as being a top team...and certainly not the same as being 'the biggest'.

It's just nostalgia driven media nonsense to think and talk about Liverpool in such grand terms. The majority of people working in the football media in England grew up with Liverpool being a top team and that's what explains the hangover in still seeking to portray them as a big team. To be fair, they won a few minor domestic cups and a European trophy along the way of their barren 24 year period to keep the myth ticking over, but it's utter nonsense to bracket them with the big boys who view most of those trophies as a poor season's haul. Even now they are reliant on opponents who've already played about 12 games more than them this season to give them the opportunity of standing on their coat tails in the PL title race. It's now or never for Liverpool in that respect: win the title this year or forget it for another half decade at least until they can get an oligarch in to pay John Henry a billion quid for his shares and spend massively on squad building. Liverpool have proven conclusively that they cant do it when spending a couple of hundred £m. They are no Arsenal. They need City-type saturation investment.

 

[Ara]

Same with man utd, this current Man U team is awful yet there better odd then us to finish 4 even though we are 3 points ahead of them. Yes they won the league last season but was only because Van Persie carried them plus the fear factor from away team + refs. Where they are is where they belong. Look at the difference from refs, last season a utd player hits the deck ref give a foul as it "must be", this year the ref looks at it and goes nope no foul and no Fergy to tell me otherwise and I get to ref here again.

 

[radiostar]

I've had to tell people that Everton have ever won the league. I'm not always sure they believe me to be honest....

Shocking really.

Everton are the 4th biggest team in the country and by some distance - if you think of the "top 4" or "big 4" then Everton are in there with Liverpool, United, and Arsenal.

 

[radiostar]

Although to be fair to chelsea they are winning a lot these days and they are prob catching up.

In terms of trophies won, there cant be too many clubs that have won more than us? Liverpool and United? Not even sure about Arsenal.