Reality Check - what is successful for Allardyce?

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He does the best he can do with the squad at his disposal, this season, have to say 7th but afterwards, we need to see some progress.
 
Pabbers said:
A trophy.

Only winning a cup or trophy is success.

Why has the meaning of that word changed!?!
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I understand what you are saying but winning a cup is largely luck unless you are one of the big 4/5. Who you get in a draw, what side the opposition put out, how people perform / injuries on the day - all combine positively and negatively. We are definitely due a trophy though.

League position is the real indicator of a managers performance.

When to the meaning of that word change?

When you needed to spend a over a billion to put together a squad, stadium and setup capable of challenging Man United, Chelsea, Man City and Arsenal. The current owner does not have the cash to challenge these guys. As someone said earlier - they are over the hill and far away.

We can dream of a Leicester... but that ship has sailed and the richest clubs have fought back by spending at ever greater levels.
 
twoblue said:
I understand what you are saying but winning a cup is largely luck unless you are one of the big 4/5. Who you get in a draw, what side the opposition put out, how people perform / injuries on the day - all combine positively and negatively. We are definitely due a trophy though.

League position is the real indicator of a managers performance.

When to the meaning of that word change?

When you needed to spend a over a billion to put together a squad, stadium and setup capable of challenging Man United, Chelsea, Man City and Arsenal. The current owner does not have the cash to challenge these guys. As someone said earlier - they are over the hill and far away.

We can dream of a Leicester... but that ship has sailed and the richest clubs have fought back by spending at ever greater levels.
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Im kind of ok not be successfull, as long as we give it a go.

We win a pot or a pan, then we are successfull. We dont, then we are not.

Now, we can have a good season, or decent......but lets not paint that up as success.
 
streeky said:
If he keeps us up and terrifies this bunch of choirboys into putting in some performances worthy of their talents, I would call it a successful year. Next year he needs to kick on.
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One game one swallow does not make a summer- I will reserve judgement give him a chance - the football team he had at Bolton were bruisers!
 
7th, a good go at the FA Cup and winning at least 1 of the 3, possibly 4 derbies this season would be a success in my book.
 
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