Are you saying we should stadium share Mr city?
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Inner-city
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You did not read that at all.
Maybe I just read it wrong brother. Or skim read it as it is a tad long.
So what you're saying is that you're against shared stadium thing?
Inner-city
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Yep. The two clubs can benefit greatly by both on a recommissioned rapid-transit line.
tsubaki
Player Valuation: £90m
This misses two important points. For a start, whilst parts of North London are quite "poor" (and of course with London, the poor parts and rich parts are usually in very close proximity to one another), the parts around Ashburton are not - the average price for a one bedroom flat is £269,000, for a four bedroom its £760,000. Secondly, Arsenal do not solely attract fans from that area - they have a wide following and a lot of very rich City types follow them, which is why the 10,000 richest seats and boxes (which went in 06/07 for between £2500 and £65000 a season) contribute as much money as the old Highbury did. There is nowhere in the North West that has that many rich people willing to go to the football, even at Old Trafford.
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But all United did is have a successful team, which meant that they could milk a lot of non-attending gloryhunting fans of cash, and stayed at a stadium which they owned and which they could then afford to (relatively cheaply) expand. We need to consider doing the same.
Im likeing Mr Inner Citys stadium museings here, agree with a lot but am cetain it wont happen at Everton.
I think we have a new stadium King on our hands here.
+ Rep for the effort that goes into those posts.
I think we have a new stadium King on our hands here.
+ Rep for the effort that goes into those posts.
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Can we build it in a way so we benefit and they don't?
FinchFarmBlue
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Couldn't agree more- the Arse peeps pay because it fits in with their lifestyle. Apart from all thats needing to fall into place, we have never and will never have the same influences that ensure that way of life that prevails in the south. I've never heard the phrase 'the bright lights of Liverpool'. How many generations have enabled the fanbase we have today & how many more would it take to get the mix of base that can support Everton financially to even a fraction that Arsenal fans pump in. I dare say there is a fair percentage of our traditional base which have been priced out spending money on the blues already. As the fan ultimately pays we will not get enough of this new 'money no object' fan (do they exist?) to replace the real fans who would still go if the match was played on a cabbage patch. I think most fans are sceptical that we would attract the 75 quid per game fan and the 2500k a season up front one in enough numbers that would have people fighting to spend on the infracstructure and that I believe is a major negative in any wholescale transport plan of this nature.
Just thinking if Norway invade the park, we will have the worst stadium out of the four main northwest clubs from Liverpool and Manchester.
Inner-city
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I disagree with your comments re: OT. The rest I do not disagree with you. I am emphasizing that Gtr Liverpool does have wealthy areas and wealthy people - and quite a few of them as well.
Man U are unique.They get amazing following initially because of Munich 1958 and the subsequent success.
Man U also expanded into lots of space which ended up being a trendy area - Salford Quays. By no stretch of the imagination can Walton be equated to Man Us location and situation. They even have their own rail station at the side of the stand. All surveys and studies have indicated that EFC move as the site is just plain bad.
Inner-city
Player Valuation: £2.5m
They need each other to get the line up and running. Approx 4 million trips for football alone opens their eyes. It then becomes viable.
What would you invisage, mate as an ideal Everton stadium mate in terms of capaicty etc and how much do you think would be safe to compleate and borrow.
I know there are comparrisons with the Emiretes etc, equally we have our own uniuqe prob and i think London is a factor.
Inner-city
Player Valuation: £2.5m
You missed it. The secret of Arsenal's success was the rapid-transit serving the large stadium, and they want to go to 70,000, not fickle City types.
There is enough fans with the money around Gtr Liverpool and beyond to fill a large stadium - if they can get there easy and in comfort.
Generalizations that Liverpool is destitute and London is rolling in it is totally untrue and unreflective.
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Inner-city
Player Valuation: £2.5m
I would say EFC can easily do with a 60-65,000 - expansion built into the design. The funding? How long is a piece of string. What it takes - it has to be worked out. An Arsenal fan 5 years would have said "what pay back £18m a year!!!". In few months time the whole loan will be paid back.
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dixie1928
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Don't want to get into the trains / stadiums thing (no real idea what it's about / low tedium threshold), but can say that if you are ssuggesting that the profiles of Everton and Arsenal fans are similar, you couldn't possibly be more wrong. Wildly inaccurate. If your scheme has any merit (and I have absolutlely no expertise so won't comment) I hope there aren't any more own goals of that sort.
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